OT: NY Mets 2025 Season Thread

Doctor Worm

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Butto Tidwell and Gilbert, seems like a lot.
I'm with the consensus on this one. I have no problem with trading any or all of the three. I do have a problem with the return.

But what do I know about the market value of these guys. Stearns has been talking to 29 other teams to determine that, and I haven't been talking to any.
 

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So to cheer you up courtesy of @RutgersNJ . (Surprised that he is so shy on the Mets thread as he is certainly not on the Yankees thread)
Great baseball story. Mets should have moved up and drafted this guy.

1) This story is from last week.

2) Unlike most professional sports, MLB does NOT allow the trading of draft picks. (Except for compensatory picks, which this was not.)
 

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Another rental!

Mets give up their #8 (Baez), #14 (Dohm), and unranked (Elissalt).

By contrast, to get Duran, the Phil's gave up their #4 (#56 in Top 100) and #6 (#92 in Top 100). They seem to have paid more than the Mets, but they got two years of team control.
Given the team's resources and how elite these two are, they probably plan on working out extensions on both of them I'd think
 

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Given the team's resources and how elite these two are, they probably plan on working out extensions on both of them I'd think
It's far from a given that a guy who had 49 saves as recently as last year would entertain the idea of being a setup man. Not unless he were to get closer money.
 

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I know people are dumping on Lindor, and for a reason. But Alonso is now hitting.259. He dropped like Duran after Hearns hit him with a right hand.

I didn’t realize he dropped that far down in average.
 
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I know people are dumping on Lindor, and for a reason. But Alonso is now hitting.259. He dropped like Duran after Hearns hit him with a right hand.

I didn’t realize he dropped that far down in average.
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I know people are dumping on Lindor, and for a reason. But Alonso is now hitting.259. He dropped like Duran after Hearns hit him with a right hand.

I didn’t realize he dropped that far down in average.
He was at .280 at the all-star break but he was never going to be a .280 hitter and likely never will be. Too many holes for pitchers to exploit. What for a time looked like it could be a epic season of like .275/45/130 for him now looks more like his normal. 255/35/105. Not bad by any stretch. Just not eye popping, career year numbers.
 
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We need one for sure in my eyes. Only thing we can do consistently is steal bases. Unfortunately they still haven't altered the rules to allow players to steal first base. Not convinced we couldn't use a frontline starter either. Cant have everything though. Especially not with the cost we're paying for rentals so far.
 

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He was at .280 at the all-star break but he was never going to be a .280 hitter and likely never will be. Too many holes for pitchers to exploit. What for a time looked like it could be a epic season of like .275/45/130 for him now looks more like his normal. 255/35/105. Not bad by any stretch. Just not eye popping, career year numbers.
Alonso's .259 still leads the team.

.260 is the new .280.
 
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We need one for sure in my eyes. Only thing we can do consistently is steal bases. Unfortunately they still haven't altered the rules to allow players to steal first base. Not convinced we couldn't use a frontline starter either. Cant have everything though. Especially not with the cost we're paying for rentals so far.
FWIW, Stearns has said that the Mets aren't necessarily looking for a starter, but would consider pulling the trigger on a FRONTLINE starter. That is, someone who would start Game 1 or 2 of a playoff series. I don't see him dealing for a back of the rotation type.
 

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Reports out of San Diego says that they're open to hearing offers for Suarez who'll be a FA. I guess they figure they can use either Adam or Morejon as a closer.
 

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1) This story is from last week.

2) Unlike most professional sports, MLB does NOT allow the trading of draft picks. (Except for compensatory picks, which this was not.)
You have to talk to Mets fan @RutgersNJ about this garbage he is dumping in the Yankees thread. And he said there was high quality discussion on this thread. Turns out I was right all along.
 

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Officially in going for it mode after the Helsley trade.

If they don’t bring up one of the young pitching studs, hoping for a #2 or #3 SP and a CF. Don’t want to be going to battle in a postseason game with Holmes or Montas. Also don’t trust Senga to be healthy.
 

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Officially in going for it mode after the Helsley trade.

If they don’t bring up one of the young pitching studs, hoping for a #2 or #3 SP and a CF. Don’t want to be going to battle in a postseason game with Holmes or Montas. Also don’t trust Senga to be healthy.
I trust Peterson and I trust Manea. Even though there is some concern about how the elbow will hold up on the latter. But I'd love to see a 3rd guy who is a stud. I mean someone who can go pitch for pitch with a Zach Wheeler, Freddy Peralta or Blake Snell if theyre putting up zeroes in a late season or post season game. Yeah, yeah i know. Who wouldn't like that? 😀 Stand in line.
 
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That must be what agents are trying to argue in the negotiation room.
And it is a credible argument.

In 2006, less than 20 years ago, the average MLB batting average was .269 - and that was with pitchers hitting in the NL. In 2025, the average BA is .246. That is actually an increase from last year's .243.

So, if Pete finishes at .260 or even .250, he can argue he has an above-average BA with superior power.
 

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And it is a credible argument.

In 2006, less than 20 years ago, the average MLB batting average was .269 - and that was with pitchers hitting in the NL. In 2025, the average BA is .246. That is actually an increase from last year's .243.

So, if Pete finishes at .260 or even .250, he can argue he has an above-average BA with superior power.
I would add that in 2006, the worst team average was .255. That average would be tied for third in 2025.