OT: Significant snowstorm on Friday night into Saturday

[Sweet Pea's Corner]

Unfortunately we cannot plow 1 inch of sleet. And our industrial accounts are closed till Monday so I can't even use my imagination to do those since it will warm by Monday morning with rain. Good thing I didn't go on a pre snow spending spree today.

 

[bac2therac]

Public flogging would be nice. Can't be so bad at your job without some criticism. Remember, every time they screw the pooch, the more likely people will ignore the next warning (even if the next event is legit).

State of emergency!

 

[bac2therac]

Did they cancel this?

Who?

 

[T2Kplus20]

Unfortunately we cannot plow 1 inch of sleet. And our industrial accounts are closed till Monday so I can't even use my imagination to do those since it will warm by Monday morning with rain. Good thing I didn't go on a pre snow spending spree today.

It's going to be 40 on Sunday, over 50 on Monday.

 

[BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine]

Freezing rain happens when snow melts into rain in a warm air layer aloft, then falls through a shallow, cold layer near the ground, becoming supercooled (below freezing but still liquid) and freezing instantly upon contact with surfaces below 32°F (0°C), creating a clear, dangerous glaze of ice. This requires a specific temperature profile: cold air (snow), then warm (melted snow), then a thin cold layer (supercooling).

Excellent executive summary of this weather, right to the point. Thanks for posting!

 

[T2Kplus20]

Excellent executive summary of this weather, right to the point. Thanks for posting!

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[DJ Spanky]

We've got maybe, maybe!, 2 inches of snow.

 

[RU848789]

Best snow of the night, by far, and it looks like it might last 15 more minutes, lol. We're up to about 1.25" as of 12:15 am and this band could get us to 1.75 and maybe some snows later can get us to 2".

 

[RU848789]

Here's a Christmas-y clip of the heaviest snow of the storm (if the link works). Even a crappy underperforming storm can have its moments.

 

[Bueller]

Bad sign to be this cold/snowy so soon. Valley Forge winter was like this. In past two winters I shoveled snow once each year.

 

[RU848789]

We got about 1/2" from that good band over the last hour or so and we're up to 1.7" as of about 1:15 am. Still snowing despite the radar looking weak; the short range models also don't show much after 2 am, so I might actually get some sleep. Not sure we'll make 2.0".

 

[RU848789]

Just finished shoveling and it looks like the storm is done, so unless something happens overnight, my final measurement is 1.8", as we got about 0.1" the last hour. Not as bad as it was looking at 10 pm, but still a pretty significant bust when we were under a winter storm warning for 4-7", my hourly forecast gave me 5.7" this morning, and the average model snowfall was about 5.5" (over 10 models) - and my prediction was 6.1" (oof). Of course it's way better than the rain and 60F it was looking like 10 days ago, but still disappointing. Pretty snowfall, though, and loved having temps in the 20s for most of it. Feels like winter. Brings me to a healthy 9.6" for December, my most since we got 10.3" in Dec 2017.

 

[MadRU]

Still light snow mix here in Linden as of 4am.

 

[Sweet Pea's Corner]

Looks like 1/4 in of ice here in Raritan Twp 6 am

 

[Bagarocks]

from my window here in sussex county dont look like much. certainly not 5 to 8 inches
maybe 3

 

[Smols]

Northern Monmouth County, I can see grass. Not even an inch.

 

[bac2therac]

Persistant light snow bands scattered across Central Jersey for the past couple hours

 

[Postman_1]

It's snowing here still in Hamilton. Got maybe around 1/2" total? Hard to measure with all the sleet and mix. It's gonna suck shoveling this stuff. Hopefully we get some melting by noon. Another overhyped bust from the NWS. With the way we saw this trending we all should've known

 

[wheezer]

A weather app has the Clifton/Montclair area with about 4-4.5 inches of snow......looks more like 2 inches from my window, probably got compressed a bit

 

[RU848789]

Just finished shoveling and it looks like the storm is done, so unless something happens overnight, my final measurement is 1.8", as we got about 0.1" the last hour. Not as bad as it was looking at 10 pm, but still a pretty significant bust when we were under a winter storm warning for 4-7", my hourly forecast gave me 5.7" this morning, and the average model snowfall was about 5.5" (over 10 models) - and my prediction was 6.1" (oof). Of course it's way better than the rain and 60F it was looking like 10 days ago, but still disappointing. Pretty snowfall, though, and loved having temps in the 20s for most of it. Feels like winter. Brings me to a healthy 9.6" for December, my most since we got 10.3" in Dec 2017.

Well whaddya know? We got another 0.3" since 3 am, bringing my total to 2.1", which somehow sounds like less of a bust than 1.8", lol. Woke up once and saw some light snow and looking at the radar since 3 am I can definitely see another 0.3" (looks like it should've been more, but that's what I measured). Snowing very lightly now at 25F.

Reports of 4-7" on LI, 3-5" for most of NYC including 4.3" in Central Park, breaking their almost 4 year streak without a 4"+ storm (last storm over 4" was 8.3" on 1/28/22, although everyone says they've undermeasured a few times - there's a whole cottage industry on critiquing CPK's snowfall measurements, lol), 3-5" in NENJ (Union up to Bergen), including 4.2" at EWR.

However, I'm not sure anywhere else in NNJ or CNJ got over 3", especially S of 78, apart from NE Middlesex County, as it's the furthest NE part of the NWS-Philly counties; saw a report of 3.2" from Carteret, which is ~8 miles NE of me and reports of 3+" in southern SI, which is 7-8 miles E of me and being NE definitely made a difference.

 

[fatsam98]

Just finished shoveling and it looks like the storm is done, so unless something happens overnight, my final measurement is 1.8", as we got about 0.1" the last hour. Not as bad as it was looking at 10 pm, but still a pretty significant bust when we were under a winter storm warning for 4-7", my hourly forecast gave me 5.7" this morning, and the average model snowfall was about 5.5" (over 10 models) - and my prediction was 6.1" (oof). Of course it's way better than the rain and 60F it was looking like 10 days ago, but still disappointing. Pretty snowfall, though, and loved having temps in the 20s for most of it. Feels like winter. Brings me to a healthy 9.6" for December, my most since we got 10.3" in Dec 2017.

You shovel at 3am? If you were my neighbor I think I'd murder you lol

 

[DHajekRC1984]

Northern Monmouth County, I can see grass. Not even an inch.

me too here up top of Rocktown Hill/west southern Hunterdon (which usually means I get snow when it is raining at the bottom lol). Geesh. Wife is pissy now. I think she wanted our party cancelled lol.

 

[Smols]

me too here up top of Rocktown Hill/west southern Hunterdon (which usually means I get snow when it is raining at the bottom lol). Geesh. Wife is pissy now. I think she wanted our party cancelled lol.

I was having a party today, people traveling from Tewkesbury in Hunterdon and Bridgewater. I cancelled it a couple of days ago. That being said I don't know how much the Tewkes or Bridgewater got.

 

[GeoRingoes]

Well whaddya know? We got another 0.3" since 3 am, bringing my total to 2.1", which somehow sounds like less of a bust than 1.8", lol. Woke up once and saw some light snow and looking at the radar since 3 am I can definitely see another 0.3" (looks like it should've been more, but that's what I measured). Snowing very lightly now at 25F.

Reports of 4-7" on LI, 3-5" for most of NYC including 4.3" in Central Park, breaking their almost 4 year streak without a 4"+ storm (last storm over 4" was 8.3" on 1/28/22, although everyone says they've undermeasured a few times - there's a whole cottage industry on critiquing CPK's snowfall measurements, lol), 3-5" in NENJ (Union up to Bergen), including 4.2" at EWR.

However, I'm not sure anywhere else in NNJ or CNJ got over 3", especially S of 78, apart from NE Middlesex County, as it's the furthest NE part of the NWS-Philly counties; saw a report of 3.2" from Carteret, which is ~8 miles NE of me and reports of 3+" in southern SI, which is 7-8 miles E of me and being NE definitely made a difference.

Numbers, thanks for all the thought and effort you put into posting on these storms. Yes, the convergence of weather systems in the NJ/NYC area makers forecasting a bit of a crap shoot.
These storm threads, along with all of the indiv updates and banter, make this my go to storm reporting.
FYI, ended up with 1/2" plus of unshovable frozen sleet/rain in Ringoes NJ.

 

[bac2therac]

1 inch here of mix in Belle Mead. We had bands of snow many parts didnt get the past 2 hours so that dumped half inch of snow on top of 1/2 inch sleet and ice. That half inch sleet and ice probably the equivalent of 2 inches of snow

 

[Knight Shift]

You shovel at 3am? If you were my neighbor I think I'd murder you lol

The murder scene

 

[T2Kplus20]

Persistant light snow bands scattered across Central Jersey for the past couple hours

Bac - how has weather forecasting gotten so damn bad? It’s bust after bust after bust. Are the models getting worse or are the “experts” using them so biased for clickbait content?

Something is definitely wrong.

 

[T2Kplus20]

It's snowing here still in Hamilton. Got maybe around 1/2" total? Hard to measure with all the sleet and mix. It's gonna suck shoveling this stuff. Hopefully we get some melting by noon. Another overhyped bust from the NWS. With the way we saw this trending we all should've known

More clickbait nonsense from the “experts”.

 

[RU848789]

You shovel at 3am? If you were my neighbor I think I'd murder you lol

We live on a moderately busy street that gets high attention from the plow crews, so if there's snow overnight they're plowing and making way more noise than I do, plus we have a park across the street and just 2 neighbors, one of whom is a good distance away, while the other is much closer, but is a major biatch-ambulance-chasing type lawyer, who has given us **** for the most minor things, so I don't mind her being kept up at all.

Here's just one example: 20 some years ago we built one of those big play/swing sets and after we were done she said we needed to move it because it was on her property and I told her to check her survey and she said she didn't need to because she was a lawyer - and I knew we were 8" onto our property from our survey. Well she broke down and got a survey done a few months later and was arguing with the surveyor that he was wrong and he flat out said, no you're simply wrong (I was within earshot on that one, lol). And when the back neighbor's tree fell on her property in a big storm about 15 years ago, damaging her shed, she told them they needed to pay for the repairs - after the other neighbor, myself and my then 15-year old son spent several hours chainsawing the tree up and carrying the pieces to the front of her house to be picked up - the best part is that he's also a lawyer and literally laughed at her, since that's not how it works (I didn't get to see that one, but he told me about it). There are another 5-6 stories like this, lol...

 

[29PAS]

Central Park may have gotten 4.3” but here in lower mid-town there’s 2”, maybe 3”. I don’t expect pin-point accuracy in these forecasts but I love a good snowfall so this is very disappointing.

 

[RU848789]

Numbers, thanks for all the thought and effort you put into posting on these storms. Yes, the convergence of weather systems in the NJ/NYC area makers forecasting a bit of a crap shoot.
These storm threads, along with all of the indiv updates and banter, make this my go to storm reporting.
FYI, ended up with 1/2" plus of unshovable frozen sleet/rain in Ringoes NJ.

Thanks! With my waning interest in RU sports, the weather posts are probably my main activity on this board (other than football gameday threads when we're away, which I still enjoy), but even that's in jeopardy, as I post very similar info in about 5 other places and have about 500 people on an email distribution, so it's a lot of work and this is the only place where I get trolled incessantly and it's getting old (I'm not looking for plaudits, but the vast majority of people elsewhere seem to appreciate the effort, even if the info ends up being wrong sometimes, like for this storm). Although apart from one poster, this thread was quite good, so maybe things will improve here.

 

[RU848789]

I will say that apart from main roads, side streets, sidewalks and driveways around here are a mess as I just did a couple of errands. About 1.5" of snow on top of about 1/2" of frozen sleet/freezing rain from the beginning of the storm which froze solid underneath the snow, like cement. So be careful if you're out and about, especially walking, as it's going to stay at 32F or below all day.

 

[RULoyal]

From Dan Zarrow

 

[bac2therac]

I will say that apart from main roads, side streets, sidewalks and driveways around here are a mess as I just did a couple of errands. About 1.5" of snow on top of about 1/2" of frozen sleet/freezing rain from the beginning of the storm which froze solid underneath the snow, like cement. So be careful if you're out and about, especially walking, as it's going to stay at 32F or below all day.

The stuff underneath willl come off..first remove snow then try to find softest spot and chip edge..if you have a scraper shovel you should be able to get off...a little more work than usual but not impossible

 

[Knight Shift]

 

[T2Kplus20]

From Dan Zarrow

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Ouch. Biggest bust since 2015? That one was biblical.

 

[RU848789]

The stuff underneath willl come off..first remove snow then try to find softest spot and chip edge..if you have a scraper shovel you should be able to get off...a little more work than usual but not impossible

All good ideas, but I'm headed out, so I just put down salt and will let that soften everything up and clear when I get back.

 

[knightfan7]

Yeah, expected a lot worse when I woke up. Really nothing except a bit of ice on decks and stairs.

 

[BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine]

Thanks! With my waning interest in RU sports, the weather posts are probably my main activity on this board (other than football gameday threads when we're away, which I still enjoy), but even that's in jeopardy, as I post very similar info in about 5 other places and have about 500 people on an email distribution, so it's a lot of work and this is the only place where I get trolled incessantly and it's getting old (I'm not looking for plaudits, but the vast majority of people elsewhere seem to appreciate the effort, even if the info ends up being wrong sometimes, like for this storm). Although apart from one poster, this thread was quite good, so maybe things will improve here.

C'mon if it weren't for the ball-busting weather threads here would get maybe half the traffic.

 

[mdk02]

From Dan Zarrow

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That nails Begen. About 3 inches by me. More sleet than expected, rather than snow, likely kept the accumulation down.