Why do the have the same creepy guy picture? Who is that?And what "disinfectant"? Hint: it was already discussed here moron. #CatsupTime again
Toby? oops someone mixed-up his username lol.
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I don’t think moving “low skilled”manufacturing here en masse is a realistic goal. It’s also a cost intensive endeavor that would likely take 5-10 years for any company and a different admin could change the rules altogether and then what for the companies that made all those investments
Define low skilled. Is that the guys in car manufacturing plants that have been sitting idle and are now getting turned on? That's not taking 5-10 years. And even if that did, it's still an investment in the future. I applaud the administration for being the first I've seen to not take the candy right in front of them and kick the can down the road.
Making clothes, making toys, making whatever everyday things we use that are mostly manufactured overseas. That kind of stuff isn’t likely to be made here on any significant level.
if anything it might move to other countries with lower tariffs (SA or LA) as opposed to here but even that will take time too. These things just don’t happen on a dime and when the admin changes will the tariffs/rules change too and then were those investments worth it if you made them.
No point owning small caps for quite a while.
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I think that is absolutely the plan. Move most manufacturing back to America and revive the middle class and Midwest.
FWIW, the focus point of on-shoring manufacturing in the US isn’t to bring jobs back, it's the physical act of having the good produced here or input sourced from here. If jobs are created or on-shored as a result that’s icing in the cake, but that’s an ancillary objective.
The Trump Admin’s huge IoT/AI investment braintrust of which Oracle is a leader is supposed to help pairing said manufacuring onshoring with the appropriate technologies to allow companies to continue to produce volume at a competitive price. Now who knows if this works or ends up as a disaster, but this is the concept.
The Trump Admin’s huge IoT/AI investment braintrust of which Oracle is a leader is supposed to help pairing said manufacuring onshoring with the appropriate technologies to allow companies to continue to produce volume at a competitive price. Now who knows if this works or ends up as a disaster, but this is the concept.
But isn't most of modern manufacturing via machines and robots now? The new Ford plant isn't going to hire 10,000 workers. It will hire 1,000 to manage and oversee the automation.
Did Trump tell that to the union guy?
I have to believe its literally impossible to move most manufacturing back to America. Especially the cheap walmart type stuff.
But balancing it to some extent, with a focus on higher end products, and products important to national security, sounds like a realistic and worthwhile goal.
I will dip my toes in once the tariffs are reversed. I think it has to end 6 months before midterms or he takes a victory lap when someone gives him enough to claim victory.You should be proud of me. Haven't bought anything today! Yet.
Well said@DJ Spanky
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If this is the high-water mark for tariffs, the market is currently at max fear. Any marginal improvement will cause a nice rally. There are only 6 countries/markets (including the EU) that really matter. And most of them are already in negotiations. Let's see what happens.
You should be proud of me. Haven't bought anything today! Yet.
I couldn't help myself. I bought SPY down 4%. VB down 6%, and I put in an order for VTSAX which will execute at day end.
I can't see minus 5% days and not buy at least something
Brown thought there is some rollback built into the current market otherwise it would be down "30%" which was certainly hyperbole, but down significantly more was the point.
But we shall see how the market reacts if and when the negotiated roll backs are announced.
I'll likely buy a little in extended, but I'm pretty open tomorrow morning to dive into our accounts.
Whenever it is looks like a pic from a watchlist. Keep the kids away. Ooof.
We actually agree, but for the record, my posts were only in response to others who "went there."@DJ Spanky
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After reading this thread and looking at the market, I expected to have gotten crushed today. I mean we had people saying nobody will ever retire again!!!!
Made enough to pay out of state Tuition and room and board at Rutgers for a year. Maybe all you do it yourself guys should seek professional advice?
I’m sure we will all have down days ahead but people need to relax
Made enough to pay out of state Tuition and room and board at Rutgers for a year. Maybe all you do it yourself guys should seek professional advice?
I’m sure we will all have down days ahead but people need to relax
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Max fear is if inflation stays high, companies start forecasting lower earnings, unemployment increases, GDP slows or shrinks, etc. Still lots of potentially negative catalysts to navigate. Some good ones may also pop up, but don't be a Tom Lee and think we can't go lower, especially out a couple months.
TDS doesn't work that way you know that.
Considering Navarro said on CNBC that the tariffs are not a negotiation will be interesting to see how tomorrow goes.
Exactly. If we could make the same stuff here with automation, it would have already happened without tariffs. That sort of change just requires funding for the infrastructure. The point of moving manufacturing here is to help the areas that have been decimated by manufacturing moving out of America.
wasn't that a certain account that his company managed?
Tariffs are not a negotiation tool but here to stay. It is shift towards nationalism and away from globalism.
The union knows what we all know. Automation is coming and it's coming fast.