Over the next few weeks, keep your eyes on the Middle East

tigerjimp

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Its definitely an escalation that will have serious long term implications for the global economy and global supply chains.

I think this will end with the Iranian regime weakened but intact. Don't see us doing a massive ground invasion.
Not sure we will have much choice. It is going to start with the Marines that are on their way right now.
 

DaboDaboDoo

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They are notably left of center. That doesn’t mean every piece has that slant. Nor does it mean that they aren’t incredibly high quality journalism by and large. They are. When I took multiple AP history courses, I had the same teacher multiple years. One of the biggest flower child, hippy leftists I ever had. Also one of the best teachers I ever had. She spent the first month of every course basically teaching a mini-rhetoric course about how to read/research. Basically drilled into us to use high quality sources (primary where possible) and to understand that every source is biased. It is a matter of finding high quality sources and then understanding the biases that may exist and adjusting your lens - as the reader - to account for that. That is something that seems to be a lost art in education these days.
Multiple AP courses? 🤯 No wonder you know everything
 

SDTiger9

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He’s not criticizing, he’s saying they’re not going to do it again (they will, and he’ll do nothing about it)
I think we’ve learned that Israel follows all cease fires and don’t attack orders.

Looks like problem solved. Time to Dunkirk and cruise on back home. And when I say home, I mean location of the next conflict.
 

ChuckChuck

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I, for the life of me, do not understand this take. I don't know why you think so little of the whole of our civilian and military leadership ship that we do not have a plan. There is most definitely a plan. There has always been a plan. The plan has been in place for decades and gets reviewed and revised regularly. These plans are not and will never be shared with us.

Nevertheless, I understand while many, myself included, may not trust the plan. We have not failed to screw up such plans since the successful conclusion of WWII.
Seems like just yesterday multiple posters attempted to convince me that we had a plan in place for this war.
 

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SDTiger9

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Burn LA and now Burn ME. Apparently it’s a requirement for the job. (I cannot believe how POOR we are at leadership. I want Trump to be successful. We simply cannot have nice things.)

Congrats Pubs…. You are actually opening the door for Gav.
 
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Larijani has never been one to be trusted. Ceasefire afficionado because he's much higher up the food chain when still alive and in a position of even better influence with the decapitation actions that have already occurred. He's just one more of the bad actors.



Only base idiots think Trump started this war. This war started on October 7th, 2023, by Hamas which was backed and had help planning said attack by the IRGC. Not to mention the funding and weapons used. Any rationale to the contrary is not based in any form of reality and needs to be reset. Period. Point Blank. End of Discussion there.

That does not mean Trump isn't a narcissistic arsehole and has made some bad decisions. However, just wanted to clear that part up.
This war started back in Genesis - Isaac versus Ishmael.
 

P. Marlowe

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You left out Massie. Currently Israel is spending millions in Kentucky because he won’t take their money. Thankfully each election Trump insults Massie he wins by a bigger percentage.

was also nice to see that one eye loser in Texas get voted out.

He’s taken money from Jackson Hinckel, so that tracks…
 

GDead_Tiger

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Burn LA and now Burn ME. Apparently it’s a requirement for the job. (I cannot believe how POOR we are at leadership. I want Trump to be successful. We simply cannot have nice things.)

Congrats Pubs…. You are actually opening the door for Gav.
Not to derail the thread but I don't think Gavin has any juice for '28. Long way to go
 

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I mean that was 20 years ago and I’m not sure I remember much of anything from them besides some of what she taught us about how to read/research. But, carry on with your joke. My post was unintentionally deserving of it.

look at his post history...he brings zero value to any thread
 
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SDTiger9

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Not to derail the thread but I don't think Gavin has any juice for '28. Long way to go
Gavin is just the Faceless Dem character. Most visible leader.

I don’t want to derail either but the BURNING of LA and the ME is making me think of the burning of ROME. The conclusions are running through my head.

I knew the Dems were gonna lose by mid 2023. Along with other artifacts, this war is quickly building into a Biden level accumulation toward that position. Is Trump there yet? No. But, he’s definitely lost the House, he’s putting the Senate into the crosshairs that had no concern a few months ago.

The US is hosting the World Cup in 3 months. The single most important global event that has high security risk and a gazillion implications. We must cool the planet no later than mid April or that will be the most major cluster **** foreign or domestic. I’m not an alarmist, just a forecaster.
 

P. Marlowe

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UAE is running low on interceptors too

They have a pretty large order of L-SAM batteries from SK in the process of being delivered, currently. Timing could have been more fortuitous, but they will help when they all arrive. I haven’t the foggiest about how long it takes to actually get them set up/operational, but do know they made a pretty hefty investment to acquire them. And, they’re a pretty sophisticated/capable system.
 

SDTiger9

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This was posted a day or two ago, but thanks for stopping by.
@kidmike41 I made the cardinal sin. I helped out a fellow poster instead of berating you to go find the video yourself.

You’ve been warned. Please read the entire thread again and make sure to not ask questions that may already have answers in them. If you suffer from a condition, hopefully @tigers4381 will have a solution to help you out. I’m embarrassed for helping. Can only imagine how you feel.

 

kidmike41

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@kidmike41 I made the cardinal sin. I helped out a fellow poster instead of berating you to go find the video yourself.

You’ve been warned. Please read the entire thread again and make sure to not ask questions that may already have answers in them. If you suffer from a condition, hopefully @tigers4381 will have a solution to help you out. I’m embarrassed for helping. Can only imagine how you feel.

I forgive you. I had actually seen the video before, but wasn't going to criticize. My post about why are we allowing them to strike targets was rhetorical. We obviously cannot stop them even when we know they are coming. They have 10,000 drones and may be producing more. This is going to take awhile if the plan is for them to deplete their stockpiles.
 
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ChicagoTiger85

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I was reading somewhere else his wife was killed running ops in Syria a few years back and since then he's been staunchly anti-interventionist.
Whatever his motivations, he’s long been in the “Israel is pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes” camp that is at least adjacent to anti-semitism. This is how he became associated with Tulsi. His new wife also works for Max Blumenthal’s fringy The Grayzone outlet, which has a lot of weirdly anti-American, pro-China/Russia foreign policy takes. Now, he’s appearing on Tucker Carlson right after resigning, and the Administration is investigating him for leaking. Good thing cuckoo bananas Laura Loomer had all the “neocons” who’d ever not sucked up to Trump removed from foreign policy positions rather than this guy, though.

What it looks like to me is yet another member of the anti-establishment/fringe coalition that glommed onto Trump 2 being surprised by Trump’s “flexibility.”
 
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SDTiger9

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Whatever his motivations, he’s long been in the “Israel is pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes” camp that is at least adjacent to anti-semitism. This is how he became associated with Tulsi. Now, he’s appearing on Tucker Carlson right after resigning, and the Administration is investigating him for leaking.

What it looks like to me is yet another member of the anti-establishment/fringe coalition that glommed onto Trump 2 being surprised by Trump’s “flexibility.”
What is this BS obsession about antisemitism?

Screw Dabo, he’s not getting the job done. That’s not antiClemson.

The Brits need reform on their social media laws. That’s not anti British.

When ANYONE builds a fabricated wall or rules against a class of people to not be criticized is actually highly dangerous for those particular people.

Mainstream Media, the Democratic Party, many in the Republican Party wanted NOTHING TO DO with Donald Trump 10 years ago. It was deemed OK to attack him constantly. And boom, a non US politician became POTUS, TWICE.

Now, in reverse, there is an equal level of speech enforcement against an amorphous definition of antisemitism. We are at the point that criticizing the NY Giants(Tisch) or the old LA Clippers(Sterling) can be claimed as antisemitism by some idiot because the owners are Jewish. Ignore that Sterling was highly racist and Tisch is littered across the Epstein files in a bad way.

I grew up in NY with nothing but Jewish, Italian, Polish, Irish families. We all got along great. We didn’t withhold commentary from Italian families that the mafia had gone too far. It’s just the facts and the 🐂 💩 IDENTITY POLITICS of the last 15-20 years is just utilized as a way to SILENCE PEOPLE by the left and the right. All of that is harmful and hateful particularly to the alleged “protected” groups. It never ends well, ever.

The US government is spending a tremendous amount of outsized time and resources with a foreign country. Historically, we have done this in many places. Wanting to leave Vietnam, wasn’t antiVietnamese. It was pro American.

Wanting to stop the shipment of weapons through Israel to Iran during an embargo to help fund other weapon shipments to Nicaragua that paid the US in cocaine who then sold that cocaine to US citizens isn’t anti Israeli, anti Iranian, anti Nicaraguan. It’s quit selling drugs to our own US Citizens. It’s pro American.

This perverted language of antisemitism is going to hurt Jews domestic and abroad. The Lukid party is damaging their country. They may have a case for certain things but it not without criticism. Anyone believing that is a zealot for ANYTHING.

There will always anti Americans, anti Italians, anti Russian, anti Black, anti Soccer players. But believing any of them are a protected class from criticism NEVER works well for any of them. Because morality defines a person or a people. And history will always judge and determine that.

If Rudy Giuliani dies in 2005, he’d probably have a 80% favorability rating. Now, it’s probably below 50%. You are the result of your actions.

Dabo in a similar fashion if he retired in 2020 would be 95+% with Clemson people. Probably 80% now. Actions matter no matter who you are.
 

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To be fair, there were and are plans. It does not mean they were executed as planned.

or to put it another way...

Saying Mike Tyson GIF by Cameo
My general read has been that the military has a lot of very specific details on attack plans for different locations/assets/etc. They are good at what they do. But I think what has been missing has been clear messaging and overall strategy and objectives. Maybe the latter two are there and it is just the first that is missing.
 

tigers4381

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@kidmike41 I made the cardinal sin. I helped out a fellow poster instead of berating you to go find the video yourself.

You’ve been warned. Please read the entire thread again and make sure to not ask questions that may already have answers in them. If you suffer from a condition, hopefully @tigers4381 will have a solution to help you out. I’m embarrassed for helping. Can only imagine how you feel.

I've got all kinds solutions. Stay on task. You're welcome.
 

BigPapaWhit

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My general read has been that the military has a lot of very specific details on attack plans for different locations/assets/etc. They are good at what they do. But I think what has been missing has been clear messaging and overall strategy and objectives. Maybe the latter two are there and it is just the first that is missing.
Yes. Much of this is gameplanned out years in advance based on various scenarios. What John and Jane Q Public are not privy is if the leadership went with one of those plans, came up with a new plan, or just said "lets push this button and see what happens." Plus, leaders throughout history have shown that it only takes few minor things to derail a very sound plan. They get risk averse, over-confident, distracted, drunk among many reasons leaders failed.

Yankee Generals the Civil War - Failure to press advantage that may have ended war years earlier.
Germans Schlieffen Plan WWI - Delayed early execution that may have capitulated France.
Hitler WWII - Opening the Eastern Front - Getting bogged down in Stalingrad

Those quickly come to mind. I am sure there are some classic history majors that can offer something from the Greeks, Romans, Gauls etc .