POLL- Does Calipari Win Another Ntl Title @ UK

Does Cal win another National Title at UK?


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Jan 10, 2015
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I'm as big a UK fan as there is, and I voted no. I voted no because, IMHO, Cal refuses to recruit guys who are actually good at the game of basketball, and instead focuses upon bringing in guys who can jump out of the gym. That's all fine and well, but when you have multiple players on your team who have difficulty even dribbling a basketball, much less actually putting the ball in the hoop, then no, that type of player does not tend to win titles.

Now, that said I hope like hell he begins recruiting better basketball players because he CAN coach them up, we've all been witness to that.
If he defers to his staff more, or makes a couple of changes there, than yes. As long as his focus is on the June draft, no.
I voted no because of these reasons here!
 
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anon_013cn8yrfncx2

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Also when people say Cal recruits these low IQ athletic only ballplayers who exactly fits into that category?

Diallo?
Whitney.

In the course of 10 years, I can think of a lot more "good basketball players" than I can "bad basketball players/highly athletic guys"


Good point but you ignored “shooters” that was mentioned. His best teams/chances had some of them. Monk and Herro on the last two elite 8 teams. IQ coming along but likely doesn’t have enough help this year.
 

TheAnonymous13

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Feb 23, 2011
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I don’t think so, but only because we have seen some very, very good teams not win the title. The nature of the tourney makes it an improbability.
And i think coach is here for a shorter time than most expect.
 
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RunninRichie

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Sep 5, 2019
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I don’t think so, but only because we have seen some very, very good teams not win the title. The nature of the tourney makes it an improbability.
And i think coach is here for a shorter time than most expect.
He’s here for at least ten years
 

LowCountryCat

Heisman
Apr 17, 2010
117,188
22,769
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I said after the Wisky game in 2015 that the NCAA will not allow Cal to win another title. The fix is in and the refs are the arm of enforcement of this double secret probation policy.
 
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caneintally

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Oct 1, 2002
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I think he will be here another 10-12 years . He will win 1 more if not 2 . I think he will win a title in the next 2-3 years for sure.
 

Blue63Madison

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May 21, 2002
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If I keep my blue goggles on, I’d say it’s possible he wins another, because 1) we are UK and it’s what we do, 2) Cal will bring in top three classes every year, and 3) college basketball overall is on a downward spiral for several years now and our odds are as good as anyone.

If I remove my blue goggles and predict without bias, I’d say no. This is Cal’s 30th year as a college coach. He has one championship and that was largely due to one player. He isn’t a brilliant bench coach IMO. His offensive philosophy is mind boggling. That’s why he usually gets knocked out by less talented teams in the NCAA tournament.
 

Cats_2010

Heisman
Jan 8, 2010
11,935
20,430
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Stop...senseless.

So hard to beat a good team 3x. Not to mention they were hot as hell in tourney. Destroyed UNC, beat us, lost to UVA in a fluke by 1 point.

Do not position that as some unforgiveable loss...that is crazy.

Unforgivable no, but being as if they just lost their best player who played a huge role in annihilating UNC, we had no business losing to them.
 
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HagginHall1999

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Oct 19, 2018
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Unforgivable no, but being as if they just lost their best player who played a huge role in annihilating UNC, we had no business losing to them.

No business....? This is the problem with a lot of our fan base. Arrogance, ignorance, no clue...not sure what it is. Again, they lost by 1 to National Champions. And btw, he may have been the hottest player but wasn't the best player.
 
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Cats_2010

Heisman
Jan 8, 2010
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20,430
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No business....? This is the problem with a lot of our fan base. Arrogance, ignorance, no clue...not sure what it is. Again, they lost by 1 to National Champions. And btw, he may have been the hottest player but wasn't the best player.

82-80 at their place, 80-53 in rupp. Managed a whopping 60 in regulation when it mattered. I don’t care how they played against Virginia, we should have taken care of them in the E8 and didn’t. You can characterize it any way you want but so will I.
 

Glenn Fohr

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Jan 5, 2003
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Maybe an NIT championship but not a national championship. I don’t think his goal is to win another title, just get kids to the league where most will end up with mediocre careers but have a few stars and a couple of solid players.
 
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ScrooDook92

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Maybe an NIT championship but not a national championship. I don’t think his goal is to win another title, just get kids to the league where most will end up with mediocre careers but have a few stars and a couple of solid players.
I don't feel like he was that way before he came here, but something changed. What changed? It wasn't the landscape, because he's proven since then that he is very slow to adapt. Years ago I read something to the effect that it had to do with his own experience coaching in the NBA and a desire to prove that he was still relevant to the league.
 
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I think he gets the second one in the next 3 years. It's any teams this year and we always have a chance. Next year's team is going to be strong. If we add another piece or two in the frontcourt it's going to be special
 

tenncats

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Aug 8, 2005
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should have already had two more 2010, and 2015, and what sucks more is Duke won championships both those years, even though we had far superior teams, I hope he wins another, but I'm voting no for the moment.
 

KyFaninNC

Heisman
Mar 14, 2005
195,719
24,518
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I voted no because of his refusal to mix up defenses when necessary, and change the offense to better utilize specific skill sets the players may have. Running the weave on top was used in the 60’s. Also not recruiting BASKETBALL players instead runners and leaders.
 

blubo

Heisman
Oct 14, 2014
22,273
85,181
78
I think we will win it all this year. i can’t wait to come back to this thread on april 7. :) .
 

KyCatFan1

Heisman
May 6, 2002
30,867
31,594
113
Before 2016 I would have said he would win a couple more, but now I am leaning towards no more. We have had 2 straight years with extremely favorable paths to a title and we have come up short. Then we have possibly the worst year in college basketball in a long time and we just don't likely have the right mix of players to do it this year either.

There are a number of things working against him. The recruiting landscape has changed, he can't get the right mix of players, and he refuses to change the way we play. When you don't have an Anthony Davis in the paint to rebound, block shots, and score, the way he wants us to play doesn't work very well. Plus we can't get the right players to comeback very often.

We will still win a lot of games with superior talent but the youth will continue to struggle at key times in the tournament. It also doesn't help that most refs seem to hate him. I really wouldn't be surprised if he gets fed up with it and hangs it up in a year or two.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
51,570
72,670
113
I'm not sure how weak college-basketball is going to be next year, but if we get Quickly, Brooks, Whitney and JJ back to join the guys we have coming in, we will have to be the most talented and deepest team in the country. So next year could be it.

However, I voted no. I know Clarke is legit, but offensively in the Cal era, we always seem to labor to score and that usually rears its ugly head in the tournament, plus, Freshmen make too many mistakes when the lights are at their brightest.

Will our 20/21 team have shooters, or will they be like our 2010 team, talented as hell, but can't shoot worth a damn? You have to be able to hit from long range or you better have a Kemba Walker in your backcourt.

Look at the teams that are winning titles, they're ALL veteran teams that have tournament experience and don't choke. I just don't think you can win it all with freshmen doing most of the heavy lifting and before anyone brings up 2012, without T. Jones, Miller and Lamb, that title doesn't happen.
 

Slowwalker

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Nov 10, 2015
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I'm not sure how weak college-basketball is going to be next year, but if we get Quickly, Brooks, Whitney and JJ back to join the guys we have coming in, we will have to be the most talented and deepest team in the country. So next year could be it.

However, I voted no. I know Clarke is legit, but offensively in the Cal era, we always seem to labor to score and that usually rears its ugly head in the tournament, plus, Freshmen make too many mistakes when the lights are at their brightest.

Will our 20/21 team have shooters, or will they be like our 2010 team, talented as hell, but can't shoot worth a damn? You have to be able to hit from long range or you better have a Kemba Walker in your backcourt.

Look at the teams that are winning titles, they're ALL veteran teams that have tournament experience and don't choke. I just don't think you can win it all with freshmen doing most of the heavy lifting and before anyone brings up 2012, without T. Jones, Miller and Lamb, that title doesn't happen.

Tyrese Maxey would disagree. First game of the season, huge stage, drains nba range three after nba range three to beat the number one team in the country. Many freshman do pee down their leg when they hit the big stage, but I think Cal does a great job of preparing them for the tournament with all of the big games on neutral floors.
 

Slowwalker

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If he defers to his staff more, or makes a couple of changes there, than yes. As long as his focus is on the June draft, no.

This is something that the haters say that don’t gave a legit argument. Saying Cal focuses on the draft is silly. The man won more games than any coach in the last ten years, and you don’t think he cares about winning? What about the last game we played? Think he cared more about winning that game or getting Whitney drafted?

He focuses on his kids succeeding. That mean numerous things. It means we win ball games. It means his kids reach their dreams. It means we are always in the spotlight. It means we get great recruiting classes. It means we hangs banners. I know this may be difficult to comprehend, being numerous things to process, but having many different goals is a reality for many people. Cal being one of them. Sorry you can’t share in joy he brings most fans and players/families of the program.

Move along simpleton.
 

qwesley

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
17,606
23,461
0
I'm not sure how weak college-basketball is going to be next year, but if we get Quickly, Brooks, Whitney and JJ back to join the guys we have coming in, we will have to be the most talented and deepest team in the country. So next year could be it.

Next year will be huge if those guys return. The stat that seems to be holding up is 30% or more of returning production.
 
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ScrooDook92

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This is something that the haters say that don’t gave a legit argument. Saying Cal focuses on the draft is silly. The man won more games than any coach in the last ten years, and you don’t think he cares about winning? What about the last game we played? Think he cared more about winning that game or getting Whitney drafted?

He focuses on his kids succeeding. That mean numerous things. It means we win ball games. It means his kids reach their dreams. It means we are always in the spotlight. It means we get great recruiting classes. It means we hangs banners. I know this may be difficult to comprehend, being numerous things to process, but having many different goals is a reality for many people. Cal being one of them. Sorry you can’t share in joy he brings most fans and players/families of the program.

Move along simpleton.
We can flip that easily, and talk about all the times that he played certain players in critical moments when it was clear to anyone that more than the current game was on the coach's mind. Harrison Twins ring a bell? But this is what Pumpers do. Simpletons & Pumpers. :joy:
 

WildMoon

Heisman
Apr 7, 2009
78,693
11,120
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We can flip that easily, and talk about all the times that he played certain players in critical moments when it was clear to anyone that more than the current game was on the coach's mind. Harrison Twins ring a bell? But this is what Pumpers do. Simpletons & Pumpers. :joy:

Did you question twins being in the game?

:joy::joy::joy::joy:
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
51,570
72,670
113
Tyrese Maxey would disagree. First game of the season, huge stage, drains nba range three after nba range three to beat the number one team in the country. Many freshman do pee down their leg when they hit the big stage, but I think Cal does a great job of preparing them for the tournament with all of the big games on neutral floors.
A regular season November game is not anywhere near the bright lights the NCAAT is.

Also, Maxey isn't the only guy on the team, but, as important as he is, he only seems to rise up every other game or so.

The NCAAT is a different animal and tougher players than Maxey have choked.

Then again, Knight, Aaron, AD, MKG and Teague blossomed in the tournament, so it can happen. I'm just going with what we have seen the last 4 years.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
51,570
72,670
113
Next year will be huge if those guys return. The stat that seems to be holding up is 30% or more of returning production.
Gotta have veterans. Getting Quickly back is really important, but if he keeps hitting his shots and putting showing he can play at the next level, he's gone.
Heck, we have seen guys like Brooks leave after a mediocre season too, so I fear what happens if this team makes any kind of run in the ncaat.
 

JC CATS

Heisman
Jun 18, 2009
23,517
12,221
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If he defers to his staff more, or makes a couple of changes there, than yes. As long as his focus is on the June draft, no.
Serious question. If he doesn't care about winning and only getting the players drafted, what was he so pissed about that he got 2 T's and booted? It couldn't have been anything about the NBA? Could it have been that he wanted to win the game? Nah, he doesn't care about that, I mean it is only his job. Carry on with touting whatever you are touting. BTW, just Reynolds wrap, nothing fancy
 
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liveblue92

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Jan 23, 2011
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I voted no. Not because “Cal only cares about the draft” or “Cal is not a good game coach”. I voted no because it’s extremely hard to win a National Championship, and for whatever reason, Cal is not getting the elite of the elite recruits anymore. Also, our 2nd and 3rd tier guys still leave early. The bad part about it is, all of those things could go well. We could get the top recruit and have some returning players and still lose. It’s the hardest championship to win in any sport imo. If we are voting on odds, then odds are he doesn’t win another one. He’s still a HoF, great coach.
 
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JC CATS

Heisman
Jun 18, 2009
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This is something that the haters say that don’t gave a legit argument. Saying Cal focuses on the draft is silly. The man won more games than any coach in the last ten years, and you don’t think he cares about winning? What about the last game we played? Think he cared more about winning that game or getting Whitney drafted?

He focuses on his kids succeeding. That mean numerous things. It means we win ball games. It means his kids reach their dreams. It means we are always in the spotlight. It means we get great recruiting classes. It means we hangs banners. I know this may be difficult to comprehend, being numerous things to process, but having many different goals is a reality for many people. Cal being one of them. Sorry you can’t share in joy he brings most fans and players/families of the program.

Move along simpleton.
This post deserves many, many likes but they will only allow me 1 sorry
 

*CatinIL*

Heisman
Jan 2, 2003
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40,237
113
Let me check the crystal ball...
 
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