POLL- Does Calipari Win Another Ntl Title @ UK

Does Cal win another National Title at UK?


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HagginHall1999

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See I look at that game and think to myself he was doing the same thing that he did in the previous 38 that all resulted in wins.

We will never know what Cal is thinking but I'm willing to bet he went with that lineup and stayed with it because he thought that was our best shot at winning.

I just think that any coach in that situation does the same thing. Most will ride with the guys that have gotten you there.

Plus the whole consumed with getting guys to the NBA after one year argument doesn't really fly in that game.......considering he stuck with the twins (2 year guys) over Ulis and Booker (1 year guys).

100%. Cal plays the players he trusts and for good reason. As fans we may 2nd guess decisions but at end of the day he knows them better than all of us.

He was 38-0 doing it his way and had a backcourt with FF experience and tight game experience at that.

I cannot second guess Cal for that.

I wish we would have just kept riding KAT down to the finish.
 
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100%. Cal plays the players he trusts and for good reason. As fans we may 2nd guess decisions but at end of the day he knows them better than all of us.

He was 38-0 doing it his way and had a backcourt with FF experience and tight game experience at that.

I cannot second guess Cal for that.

I wish we would have just kept riding KAT down to the finish.

Yep. A prime example is Whitney.

Guys like Whitney, Brooks, Juzang................Cal knows that if any of these guys get going, well that's just going to make our team all the more better going forward. But it's a balancing act. He's said it several times during his press conferences........because he knows he has to get those guys going......but he's also trying to win the game. So who does it go to in crunch time? Quickley is out there, Hagans is out there, Maxey is out there.

I generally believe that despite the feeling of some UK fans, Cal plays our best team or what he honestly believes to be our best team.

Same with that Wisconsin game. Plus like it was pointed out, it wasn't as if the Harrison's played all that poorly.
 

KyFaninNC

Heisman
Mar 14, 2005
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Not sure what game(s) you are referring to, but some have a distorted memory of Wisconsin in 2015. Harrison twins combined for 25 points, 9-19 FG, 5rb, 4ast, 1 TO in that game. Booker couldn't guard a loose shoe on the ground at the time.

UConn the year before, the twins were awful, but we had no bench.
Yep. I never faulted Cal for having the twins in late in that Wisky game, but I did fault him for not calling a timeout and telling the guys what he wanted them to do before having 3 straight clock violations. KAT was having his way, and for some reason he never got the ball.
 

KyFaninNC

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See I look at that game and think to myself he was doing the same thing that he did in the previous 38 that all resulted in wins.

We will never know what Cal is thinking but I'm willing to bet he went with that lineup and stayed with it because he thought that was our best shot at winning.

I just think that any coach in that situation does the same thing. Most will ride with the guys that have gotten you there.

Plus the whole consumed with getting guys to the NBA after one year argument doesn't really fly in that game.......considering he stuck with the twins (2 year guys) over Ulis and Booker (1 year guys).
Correct.
 

WildMoon

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Apr 7, 2009
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Insat


I say the same thing in my complaint, all the time, because for every person who agrees, someone disagrees. I don't think players are comfortable playing for Cal, it may be a generational thing. Did you not see how relaxed they were when he left? Never mind the fact that KP put them in a zone, they were relaxed. I think it's being used against him on the recruiting trail. The elite players know they're going to the NBA, regardless of which program they play for. If you're looking for more playing time, and to not get yanked for every mistake, well.....? Again, he represents the program well.

Either the Twins choked at the end of the Wisconsin game, or Cal went to stall ball. Maybe both?

Wisconsin was a great team. I won't deny that. But I saw Cal use the same tactics that we've been seeing him use in other games (that they should have won). He was more worried about the futures of those twins than he was playing one Tyler Ulis (.429 3pt%). Cal has been so invested in the numbers of stars beside a player's names and getting them into the league after one year. I think he will adapt, Richards has been helping with that.

your argument might hold water, if you talked facts...instead of making **** up.

Most disagrees with you, rarely does anyone agrees with you.

1. Did you not see players celebrate when Cal came back to the locker room? Do you not see how many have improved playing for Cal? Hell, Izzo even commented on how well Cal does getting freshmen to play. There is one common theme, which is young players seem to struggle and doesn't produce in other school...why is when Cal gets top 5 players, we go to final four. When other coaches do...well there hasn't been a top 5 player in final four since Cal did in 2015.

2. Twins choked? at the end of the Wisconsin game? You joking right? Just stop it, this is silly. Do you even know what happened? Or are you going to blame twins (by the way, they are two different players) for everything? Is it because they didn't do heroics?

3. Ulis did play some at the end of the game, you just want to ignore that fact. He didn't do anything so.
 

WildMoon

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100%. Cal plays the players he trusts and for good reason. As fans we may 2nd guess decisions but at end of the day he knows them better than all of us.

He was 38-0 doing it his way and had a backcourt with FF experience and tight game experience at that.

I cannot second guess Cal for that.

I wish we would have just kept riding KAT down to the finish.

actually the mistakes were made by KAT...people don't remember what happened in shot clock violations. But KAT was the first option in both and he failed in both. People just remember how those ended and blamed twins for it. Reality is, we did go to KAT but he didn't execute.
 

WildMoon

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Yep. I never faulted Cal for having the twins in late in that Wisky game, but I did fault him for not calling a timeout and telling the guys what he wanted them to do before having 3 straight clock violations. KAT was having his way, and for some reason he never got the ball.

NOT TRUE.

OMG...just stop it. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.
 

HagginHall1999

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actually the mistakes were made by KAT...people don't remember what happened in shot clock violations. But KAT was the first option in both and he failed in both. People just remember how those ended and blamed twins for it. Reality is, we did go to KAT but he didn't execute.

In all honesty I remember little about the specifics. I'm pretty sure I have PTSD from that game.
 
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MarkPftw

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No. Not in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong though. The biggest reason is that the NCAA and their blatantly biased, terrible, and gambling officials/refs won't allow it.
 
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KyCPA2000

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Nov 24, 2007
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UK averages a title every 13 years or something like that, so chances are good we will see another one in the next five years. Will Cal be the coach then? Who knows?
 

UKWildcatT

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I hate to say it, but if someone put a gun to my head, I’d probably say no. Prove me wrong though Cal.
 

JASUN74

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Oh course he wins another title. Without going through and reading the other post on here, I’m sure everyone said yes. Lol. Anyway, absolutely without a doubt in my mind I think he wins at minimum one more and If I had to bet on it I’d say two. Especially if he stays 9 more years after this one. Kentucky will somehow rise up and get on top of the mountain. When Cal sees exactly what happens with the NBA Jump or whatever, he’ll figure out how to once again put Kentucky where it’s supposed to be. I mean really, What’s College Basketball if The University of Kentucky is winning a title every ten years or so? I’ll tell you what it is, it’s a damn lie and not a place I want to live in! Hahahaha. Go Cats
 
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26MichaelUK

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Wisconsin was a great team. I won't deny that. But I saw Cal use the same tactics that we've been seeing him use in other games (that they should have won). He was more worried about the futures of those twins than he was playing one Tyler Ulis (.429 3pt%). Cal has been so invested in the numbers of stars beside a player's names and getting them into the league after one year. I think he will adapt, Richards has been helping with that.
This is complete and utter ********. Go back and watch the game. Ulis was staying to get abused by Jackson. The twins, along with KAT, are the reason we even made it past Notre Dame. Also, they willed us to the damn title game the year before. You put Ulis in, and we lose, Cal is blasted by EVERYONE for taking the kids out with ice water in their veins.
 
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ScrooDook92

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This is complete and utter ********. Go back and watch the game. Ulis was staying to get abused by Jackson. The twins, along with KAT, are the reason we even made it past Notre Dame. Also, they willed us to the damn title game the year before. You put Ulis in, and we lose, Cal is blasted by EVERYONE for taking the kids out with ice water in their veins.
We DID lose, genius.
 

26MichaelUK

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We DID lose, genius.
Do you for one second believe I don't know we lost that game? I mean seriously? That loss crushed me for weeks and totally changed how much I get involved in teams.

My point is simple. Taking out the Harrison's, the most clutch players maybe ever at UK, and us still losing, which we would've, every Kentucky fan and sports reporters would've ripped Cal apart for not having our two most clutch players on the court. Genius.

So tired of this blame the Twins narrative when the game wouldn't have been close without them.
 
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Do you for one second believe I don't know we lost that game? I mean seriously? That loss crushed me for weeks and totally changed how much I get involved in teams.

My point is simple. Taking out the Harrison's, the most clutch players maybe ever at UK, and us still losing, which we would've, every Kentucky fan and sports reporters would've ripped Cal apart for not having our two most clutch players on the court. Genius.

So tired of this blame the Twins narrative when the game wouldn't have been close without them.

Yep. it's like I said before.......everyone tries to justify or find excuses for that loss when the simple answer is that on that day Wisconsin was just better than us.
 
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Cbbcrazy2

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I voted yes however, he will have to catch lightning in a bottle like 2012. Some key players will have to stay over another year with an outstanding incoming class. It will be difficult and almost impossible for an all freshman team to ever win 6 in a row with the playing field we have today. I would love to see another in my lifetime, Go CATS!!!!
 

Baller Cal

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Disagree. We made them look good by not changing our defense.


Where's your buddy Jeff? Surely he didn't get banned after falsely mocking others for getting banned while you and others piled on. How ironic would that be? Wurr's Jeff?
 
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Disagree. We made them look good by not changing our defense.

We won 38 straight games and played outstanding defense up until that point.

What exactly were we supposed to change? Go to zone?

Wisconsin didn't just have the number 1 offense that season, they were the 1st ranked offensive efficiency team since those stats have been kept track of.

They were always going to put up points in that game.

They put up 1.23 ppp on us. But that season they had 20 games where they put up more.
 
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sluggercatfan

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Yep. I never faulted Cal for having the twins in late in that Wisky game, but I did fault him for not calling a timeout and telling the guys what he wanted them to do before having 3 straight clock violations. KAT was having his way, and for some reason he never got the ball.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Baller Cal

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He was screaming at the Twins to get the ball to Towns. If anything, he should have put Ulis in but I guess they were higher in the pecking order. It is what it is. He screamed at them to get it to Karl but they ignored him.
 
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anon_013cn8yrfncx2

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This year and next year are two more chances.

Cal’s best teams have all had good returning experience.

This year didn’t seem too promising at first. While the returnees are really some of the best he’s had, the frosh have been underwhelming. But they’re coming on a bit so there’s hope in a down year.

Next year, Cal has a great class lined up but we don’t know about returnees. We believe several should return and that some will but how many returning will actually have much game experience. Allen and Whitney will have little to none.

Hope IQ returns along with Brooks and Juzang. In that case, Next year would be a serious contender, maybe even the favorite. If Cal can’t get the 2021 team to the FF then all future bets are off.
 
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