POLL: Your Choice for Next PSU Head Coach?
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I’m repeating myself but I get it. But your job also needs to be on the line if your coaching hire is not a home run after saying in the press release that Franklin was fired for not winning Big and National Championships instead of merely thanking him for his service and saying it was time to move on.The expectations for PSU this season were sky-high (NATTY.), and Franklin fed it preseason by saying that this was the best PSU team in his tenure. That quickly proved to be incorrect. Flaws were evident in the first three games. Then, there was the close loss to oregon, another game falling short against a top-ten team. And then they were thoroughly embarrassed by ucla and northwestern. The team was a mess.
It’s one thing for a team to simply be overrated (though Franklin still pumped up the hype). The product on the field strongly suggests it was more than that. Poor tackling, playing Singleton in key situations when Allen was clearly playing better, Allar looking nothing like a 5-star, top NFL draft pick, poor offensive line play, poorly timed and executed trick plays (WILDCAT.
Love Terry but this 60 plus years fan sure as hell won’t.
Kraft definitely put himself in the crosshairs. He talked a big game. He had better back it up.
The more I read into it, I really like Brent Key from Georgia Tech.
Offense background with a really exciting and complex run-first scheme, which I think will translate well in the BIG. Has assistant jobs at UCF and Bama. Offensive coaching background. 7-1 vs ranked opponents since arriving at GT! And that includes his only loss in that triple OT game vs Georgia last year.
Offense background with a really exciting and complex run-first scheme, which I think will translate well in the BIG. Has assistant jobs at UCF and Bama. Offensive coaching background. 7-1 vs ranked opponents since arriving at GT! And that includes his only loss in that triple OT game vs Georgia last year.
Think twice if you think the poster isn’t entitled to his opinion.
Well, I guess whoever coaches will get fired if they don’t win a Natty year 1. You know that’s the goal Kraft said but there is something acceptable about falling short. For example, should Georgia have fired Kirby after last year?
He knows he’s got 1 shot of hiring an HC unless of course that coach is successful and moves on So I think he’s going to hire someone he knows well. Hafley Rhule maybe Smith. No way he hires UM no way he hires Cignetti.
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Yeah but hes a GT through and through-- just like people say ruhle is a psu guy -- same holds true for other candidates and the schools they are currently at.
Love the mold though, a lot like Dan Campbell personality with the Lions, if we can get something like that ...then yes
Seems like multiple talking heads are saying PSU can potentially land anyone , and they stress anyone . Maybe our “suck factor” isn’t that bad .
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Translation: Plenty of football coaches are about to get a raise.
Could see him retaining Terry Smith, assuming they meshed during their overlap? Who would he pick as his OC?
Multiple outlets are saying we're taking major $$$s into this search. We might be talking about making someone the highest paid coach in the country.
If this hire doesn't work out, Kraft's job is absolutely on the line.
But it was also on the line every year that went by and Franklin didn't even win a conference championship or bigger.
This is the entire game from boosters on down. Everyone knows the stakes, even Franklin.
According to this poll, Bryan Hartline is not hated after all.
The issue with every one of these names is that this search won't make it into December and none of these guys with the exception of Rhule will be available then.
But I know who is: Urban.
The issue with every one of these names is that this search won't make it into December and none of these guys with the exception of Rhule will be available then.
But I know who is: Urban.
Kraft isn't young and has plenty in his 401k, you dont make this move if you are "worried about your job," which unlike how Franklin coached this year, is exactly what you'd want from a leader at your school. Takes risks, burn the ships, build a legacy....all these guys have plenty of dough.
Right, and if it doesn't work out for Kraft, just as Franklin can/will, you just move on to the next school (likely for a raise anyway).
This idea of playing the next 5 years for 10-2 and losing to only elite teams wasn't as sure a thing as people assume (and this year showed that), so shoot for titles. They didn't think JF could do it, so they moved on.
Exactly....the most noble thing a leader can do is not merely hang on to his position and collect a paycheck. Far too much of that ******** in our society these days....do something memorable, legendary.
For the record, this attitude is why people celebrated the fall of Paterno. I get what your sat g but the holier than thou stuff is annoying. It's football...the only goal is to win.
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You clearly just want a Penn State guy which is the worst thing that could happen.
Franklin proved repeatedly he wasn't capable of doing that. See his record in being games. He's Richt.
You clearly just want a Penn State guy which is the worst thing that could happen.
Then when are they firing the basketball coaches and all the other coaches who's teams are at the bottom on the Big 10 standings and no where close to a National Championship caliber team? Maybe that statement should say "the University holds is FOOTBALL coaches to a higher standard because football is the money train for athletics" which has been stated over and over and over again that the athletics budget is separate from the academic budget and doesn't effect tuition blah blah blah.....
Because he's not a great coach. Great recruiter that relies to having more talent to win. He loses a ton of close games. They had a nice win over a banged up Georgia team but even this year...they play two legit games and lost both.
Wait, that can't be true. Nobody called me to be on that comity [sic].
Success with Honor never truly existed anyway...it was a brilliant plan by Paterno to have lowered expectations as the fans would dismiss losses because we did the right things.
Of course we don't know this ... retaining his job could hinge on football success, and it could have been communicated that Franklin wasn't cutting it. So, he very well could have made this move to retain his job.
Or, maybe not.
Why do we continue to speculate on things, and present these rank speculations as facts, when we don't have a clue?
What am I speculating about? I said kraft has plenty of cash and wants to swing for the fences?
That is absolute BS… Paterno began speaking in terms of the Grand Experiment early in his head coaching career, BEFORE all his undefeated seasons and his national championships.
That’s fair. But that also doesn’t mean he’s a good fit at PSU. Places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, etc have hired the new, up and coming guy and it didn’t work because they weren’t a good fit. Look at Wisconsin with Fickell now. He was widely considered a very, very good coach with all the success he had at Cincinnati and he was the hot coaching commodity. However, he looks way in over his head at Wisconsin. I’m sure Campbell is a good coach, but does he give PSU the edge to get the top recruits and beat the likes of Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, etc? I also still think of Iowa St as a wrestling school, FWIW.
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And it was brilliant...he lowered expectation. Not really sure how you think that proves me wrong. Before all his undefeated seasons is exactly my point.