Basketball Ron & Dylan Harper / Ace Bailey - NBA Thread

Rutgers25

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It’s the NBA

somehow it keeps getting worse in the nba. Teams are regularly scoring in the 140s. Insane
Then miraculously, the scoring goes way down in the playoffs when teams decide to give full effort and refs suddenly swallow their whistles. NBA regular season has to be the worst bang for your buck in all of professional sports
 
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somehow it keeps getting worse in the nba. Teams are regularly scoring in the 140s. Insane
Then miraculously, the scoring goes way down in the playoffs when teams decide to give full effort and refs suddenly swallow their whistles. NBA regular season has to be the worst bang for your buck in all of professional sports
The kid's dad was right. Even worse now. LOL!

 

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The “best” defensive team is OKC at 105 ppg allowed. Admittedly I have watched a few of their games and they do truly give defensive effort for most of the game to give up 105 a game with the way the nba is officiated is impressive

no other team gives up fewer than 111 which is horrific and 1/3 of the league gives up 120 or more per game

I remember even in MY youth in the early 2000s the pistons, spurs, nets were giving up 85-90 regularly all year and it was still a fun watch
 
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The “best” defensive team is OKC at 105 ppg allowed. Admittedly I have watched a few of their games and they do truly give defensive effort for most of the game to give up 105 a game with the way the nba is officiated is impressive

no other team gives up fewer than 111 which is horrific and 1/3 of the league gives up 120 or more per game

I remember even in MY youth in the early 2000s the pistons, spurs, nets were giving up 85-90 regularly all year and it was still a fun watch
Defense is a big reason why OKC is currently 17-1.
 

MadRU

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Ace is in Brooklyn tonight vs the Nets, 7:30pm on YES network
 

Degaz-RU

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The Jazz don’t “feature” Ace whatsoever. He just floats on the wing and is lucky if he even touches the ball while the other guys handle.

Argh.
 
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The Jazz don’t “feature” Ace whatsoever. He just floats on the wing and is lucky if he even touches the ball while the other guys handle.

Argh.
Not a great game for him last night.

He is clearly their 3rd primary scoring option, right now, behind the 7 footer, and their PG. They are still easing him into his role. He is doing fine.

He IS going to be a star, you can tell. He is a little physically over-matched from a strength stand point, versus older more mature and more physical players. By next season, when he adds 8-10 more pounds of lean muscle mass and the strength that comes with that ... he is going to be something else, at least offensively.

As to the comment about the Utah Jazz defense: Ys, awful, has been awful all season. Probably the worst or 2nd worst defense in the league. No one on that team plays any defense except maybe a reserve guard (#16, maybe?) who rarely plays. Bailey misses rotations, and falls asleep sometimes on defense, especially away from the ball. But he also shows excellent shot-blocking ability on help defense, and reasonable footwork.

Utah also leads to league in number of turnovers: They are literally the worst team in the NBA taking care of the ball - many of the turnovers unforced.
 
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the kid they have at point guard looks good though , might be a good one .he was always an off ball scorer but they made him PG.
 

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Not a great game for him last night.

He is clearly their 3rd primary scoring option, right now, behind the 7 footer, and their PG. They are still easing him into his role. He is doing fine.

He IS going to be a star, you can tell. He is a little physically over-matched from a strength stand point, versus older more mature and more physical players. By next season, when he adds 8-10 more pounds of lean muscle mass and the strength that comes with that ... he is going to be something else, at least offensively.

As to the comment about the Utah Jazz defense: Ys, awful, has been awful all season. Probably the worst or 2nd worst defense in the league. No one on that team plays any defense except maybe a reserve guard (#16, maybe?) who rarely plays. Bailey misses rotations, and falls asleep sometimes on defense, especially away from the ball. But he also shows excellent shot-blocking ability on help defense, and reasonable footwork.

Utah also leads to league in number of turnovers: They are literally the worst team in the NBA taking care of the ball - many of the turnovers unforced.
Utah is tanking, they don’t care that the defense is bad, they want to lose games and will trade Markkenan before the deadline for more draft picks and/or young players. They have a great plan for Ace, focusing on what they think he can do well now, and will build out his game over time. Right now he is being told to shoot on the catch or within two dribbles, otherwise pass the ball. As A result, his efficiency and his assists are way up and turnovers are down compared to when he was at Rutgers when there was literally no plan for him.
 

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Dylan with the game winner with 9 seconds left and Spurs beat the Pelicans 135-132. Dylan had 22 points in 25 minutes shooting 10-16 and had 6 assists and only 1 turnover. Derek Queen with a huge game with 33 points. The studs from last year are doing it in the NBA
 

goru7

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Queen thought he had the game winner and Dylan then topped him with the game winner. The way Dylan attacked the rim against Alabama and Texas A&M last year in Vegas is on full display in the NBA. His efficiency in his minutes played is off the charts. His finishing at the rim with both hands is off the charts and his footwork on his pivots is off the charts. Going to interesting rookie of the year award. This great class is balling right now.
 

Mholinko

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These performances make last season all the more embarrassing.
We had Rec YMCA players surrounding these guys

the formula with these two last year would’ve been to double down on scrappy willing defenders, rebounders and guys willing to playing to complement an offense built entirely around those two

trying to become a run and gun team was a abject failure