i can almost guarantee SHU will never sign another coach who has been to an elite 8.
Shaheen Holloway
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The irony is that this is the counter argument to leave. You're giving an example of a coach that had/has 5X the resources of his competition. Seton Hall isn't Gonzaga in this example - it's Pepperdine/USF/San Diego/etc.
Seton Hall is Pepperdine or San Francisco? LOL
Willard left Seton Hall for the promise of resources at Maryland.
He left Maryland because of lack of basketball commitment and a great job being his for the taking - and he did not have to fight football for commitment of resources.
Success? Early ousting in NCAA. Let look at it honestly he was on the outs in MD and he knew it. The fans were starting to Chirp.
Success? Early ousting in NCAA. Let’s look at it honestly he was on the outs in MD and had one more year tops. The fans were starting to Chirp. He just beat them to the punch.
Funny but you doubt Hobbs’s statement yet you are sure of your opinion based on what 1st hand knowledge? You must be some omnipotent being.
Once again, over your head. It’s analogy for resources relative to your peers. Gonzaga gave Mark Few *more* resources than anyone in his conference. Seton Hall gives Sha *less* resources than anyone in the conference.
If you want to make the argument Sha should stay at Seton Hall - that’s great and I’m here for it, but to use mark few as an example is silly because it’s the opposite situation.
If the thought is he may leave due to lack of resources, bringing up a person who found tremendous success due to having exponentially more resources than his peers is silly.
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Again you just change the point you said he would be fired before his first contract and he wasn’t and made the S16
They were chirping the season before and not last year they wanted to keep him
oh btw the Maryland alums I work with are chirping NOW! All college fans chirp
Again just go away
Nah I think I'll stay. WTF are you? Do you ever post besides this post? He snuck by a 12 seed on a bad call. He knew he was losing his top players and would be another down year this year and he'd be gone. WAS NOT the sentiment of alum. My brother is an alum and confirmed they couldn't stand him. Stop sniffing his panties...he is a snake.
I did not mention Mark Few. Howevwr, not sure the only reason Few had success was more resources - which you suggest is the only reason. He is a veey good coach, went international with his recruiting at first and had succes in the tournament, developing a national schedule with enough marquee games to get media attention and a huge gap between his program and the rest of his conference so he gets set up for tourney success each year.
Resources is a buzz word of Seton Hall fans with inferiority complexes. I don’t have any idea of the comparative resources of the Gonzagas vs. Pepperdine and USF. I would suspect they are significantly greater at Gonzaga. I also don't believe other than UConn, Creighton, Marquette, Villanova and perhaps St John's, our resources are dwarfed by other conference schools. Even with that, ours are more than sufficient to run a top basketball program and other than last year, we have been more than competitive with the Big East schools.
We have a big game tonight and we both want a win, so we can agree on that and move on.
That the Zags were best in conference means little re their status as a basketball power.
I always looked at the Zags coaching change as who did better, Monson or Few.
I am surprised that Amaker has not gotten another shot at a P5 school head coaching position. 7 Ivy league championships is probably more than mediocrity and with 2 NCAA wins at Harvard I thought he might get offers and strike while the iron was hot at those times.
Tommy Amaker's record at Harvard is exceptional, making him the winningest coach in program history with a tenure from 2007-2025, achieving roughly 310 wins and 200 losses, securing seven Ivy League titles, leading the Crimson to four NCAA Tournament appearances (including two wins), and bringing them to unprecedented national recognition, highlights this Harvard Crimson article from March 30, 2025 and his profile on the Harvard Athletics website state, though exact numbers vary slightly by the date of publication.
Sha is going to need a Cignetti type season that he had last year at IU at least to get a 10 year guaranteed deal here as someone posted. Would UNC or Kansas really come after Sha? Bobby Hurley and Tang are on the hot seat they might come after him.
OK let's look at context to all of this for his harvard era. Amaker has never run the table in an ivy league regular season. He has finished first in standings numerous times but has only had 1 one-loss regular season...winning titles with 2 3 and 4 regular season losses shows a down league and not a dominating campaign
Do you mean Kansas State? No. Never. Can you imagine a Shaheen press conference in Kansas?
Well there is talk of Self retiring. And Tang is might br on the hot seat. A Hurley type guy press conference there would not go over well either.
If we're successful, this will always be in play. There comes a point where Shaheen is capped here and the decision comes down to chase the money or "settle" for less to stay here.
Right. It's simply what Seton Hall is in the larger world of big time college sports. These P4 football schools have enough NIL to throw around to double Sha's salary and still fund a roster if they wanted to without whatever % of the revenue sharing they receive for basketball. If someone wants Sha to be their HC at one of those programs we won't be able to match it.
And now with the revenue sharing so critical to SHU's ability to fund a roster - which it looks like we finally got right with ~80%+ of it funded by the RS - how much of it do we want to pay the coach over what Sha is already pulling in?
Enough to compete in Conference and to never have a replay of last year.
Lets see Sha get to an NCAA Tournament before we worry about P4 schools offering riches. There's a long way to go this season.
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John's not a bad guy.
When I was running the site I used to email him during the preseason to do an interview. He was always busy as hell but never said no. Instead he would just say when.
My connection with him went all the way back to the Gonzo days when as a young guy he went to all the home games. There I met him and we became friends.
I'm of course helping. But in no way am I spending nearly the same amount of time that I did in the past. Unless you do it you cannot imagine how many hours were needed to be the sole monitor of the board.
During the season I would spend maybe 8 hours or so a day between being on the phones, working on interviews, monitoring the board, etc, etc. Now maybe at most I spend 90 minutes helping JD a day.
During the season I would spend maybe 8 hours or so a day between being on the phones, working on interviews, monitoring the board, etc, etc. Now maybe at most I spend 90 minutes helping JD a day.