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Recruiting will help, but does MR need superior talent to eek these games out? I mean really, take off those rose tinted lenses, and look from an outsiders point of view, which is reality. A bottom dweller in the weakest side of the conference.
 
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HuskerMike85

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It's obvious a lot of people here have not taken a close look at our two deep. We don't have an Ameer, Rex, or Helu to bail us out. Take away those guys and the last staff loses quite a few more games. It's easier to just hop on a message board and whine and complain then actually look at the entire situation and educate yourself on the game and team.
 

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Also it must be hard for the Pelini guys to handle the fact MR in his first year with Nebraska's worst roster since the 60's is closer to being undefeated at 3-5 than any of Bo's teams were.

While I don't care for Pelini it would be hard for me to say Riley has been better than him. Every step taken has been backwards under Riley so I'd go far enough to say he's been worse.
 

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While I don't care for Pelini it would be hard for me to say Riley has been better than him. Every step taken has been backwards under Riley so I'd go far enough to say he's been worse.

And I would say to that either you are trolling or you really don't know much about the game of football. There have been plenty of positives this season. Give us a true difference maker at QB or RB and this team is undefeated this year even with the terrible pass D and horrible OL.
 

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Close to undefeated? hahahahahaha. Stop it...you're killing me buddy.

Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension? I said we are closer to being undefeated than any of Bo's teams were despite that we are 3-5.
 

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Im a realist. I know we are going to give MR a few years regardless what happens this year. Im also an optimist and hope he gets his toolbox full and gets us moving in the right direction. But my realist side is overtaking my optimism.
 

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And I would say to that either you are trolling or you really don't know much about the game of football. There have been plenty of positives this season. Give us a true difference maker at QB or RB and this team is undefeated this year even with the terrible pass D and horrible OL.

What positives have there been?

The only ones in the country who see anything good coming out of Nebraska are the blind faithful who think the program is actually going to go anywhere with Riley. Michigan is what you call positive results, Nebraska went in to reverse so hard that they should be required by the NCAA to have a reverse indicator alarm..
 
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Oh I'm a realist. There have been plenty of questionable coaching decisions, but you have to take into consideration everything at play. The lack of talented depth, the toxic environment, new systems etc. We have been in position to win every game. If we had just one or two difference makers at QB, RB or DE we would be looking at 8-0 or 7-1 and that is being realistic.
 

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Also it must be hard for the Pelini guys to handle the fact MR in his first year with Nebraska's worst roster since the 60's is closer to being undefeated at 3-5 than any of Bo's teams were.

I don't bye that wether you lose by one or two or 45 a loss is a loss and 3-5 won't turn into 9-4 or 10-4.
 

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What positives have there been?

The only ones in the country who see anything good coming out of Nebraska are the blind faithful who think the program is actually going to go anywhere with Riley. Michigan is what you call positive results, Nebraska went in to reverse so hard that they should be required by the NCAA to have a reverse indicator alarm..

The fact that you cannot see the positives tells me all I need to know about your lack of knowledge about football and this program. Michigan? They were one QB away from being a solid team. Hoke had top 15 recruiting classes and they ranked 7th in total defense last year. JH walked into a pretty good situation. MR OTOH walked into a dumpster fire talent, depth, and mentality speaking.
 

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Oh I'm a realist. There have been plenty of questionable coaching decisions, but you have to take into consideration everything at play. The lack of talented depth, the toxic environment, new systems etc. We have been in position to win every game. If we had just one or two difference makers at QB, RB or DE we would be looking at 8-0 or 7-1 and that is being realistic.

So our losses have nothing to do with coaching choices made during a game?
 

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I hope brings his D coach with him, I'd love to see what he wears in November on the sideline
 

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So our losses have nothing to do with coaching choices made during a game?

Like I said "There have been plenty of questionable coaching decisions" The loses are more of a talent issue than a coaching issue. We had three dropped TD's today. Is MR supposed to go catch those for the kids?
 

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We're playing the what if game again. I wonder how many teams in the nation would also be 8-0 or 7-1 if they also had a difference maker at QB, RB, or DE. Oh I guess only Nebraska.
 
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The fact that you cannot see the positives tells me all I need to know about your lack of knowledge about football and this program. Michigan? They were one QB away from being a solid team. Hoke had top 15 recruiting classes and they ranked 7th in total defense last year. JH walked into a pretty good situation. MR OTOH walked into a dumpster fire talent, depth, and mentality speaking.

Seriously? Michigan isn't winning because they have a great QB.. They are far more fundamentally sound all around than they were under Hoke..

I'd still like to see a list of these positives though.. You don't go from 9 win teams to 3-5 because there have been some strides made..
 
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We're playing the what if game again. I wonder how many teams in the nation would also be 8-0 or 7-1 if they also had a difference maker at QB, RB, or DE. Oh I guess only Nebraska.

Well it's a fact. Having below average talent means you get below average results. Bo was lucky to have a difference maker to save his ***. MR doesn't have that luxury right now.
 

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Seriously? Michigan isn't winning because they have a great QB.. They are far more fundamentally sound all around than they were under Hoke..

I'd still like to see a list of these positives though.. You don't go from 9 win teams to 3-5 because there have been some strides made..

No it's because they have a QB that doesn't turn the ball over like crazy. Their defense was amazing last year and is again this year. Add that to top 15 recruiting classes and that's the result. Do you even pay attention to College Football?
 

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Like I said "There have been plenty of questionable coaching decisions" The loses are more of a talent issue than a coaching issue. We had three dropped TD's today. Is MR supposed to go catch those for the kids?

There are lots of missed opportunities all across the college football world, Nebraska isn't alone there. All we ever do around here is blame the talent while Indiana takes Sparty to the wire with nothing on the bench..
 

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Hes correct, when Bo go here he had Suh, then had nice trio of back, Helu, Burkhead and Abdullah, then he also had Prince and Dennard, L David and Randy Gregory. Bo had a lot of help, thanks to Callahans recruiting. Riley did not get the same love left over from Bo. There is a huge difference, if you want to admit it or not.
 

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I get your point also, just saying our problems are more talent related is also saying we're playing really talented teams. Which were not. We were very fortunate to get into OT @ Miami. Probably the only team to beat us with better talent than us. What did they do today?
 

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No it's because they have a QB that doesn't turn the ball over like crazy. Their defense was amazing last year and is again this year. Add that to top 15 recruiting classes and that's the result. Do you even pay attention to College Football?

You can throw insults around all you want, you will not change my view that this staff is everything the Oregon State fans said it was.
 
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I get your point also, just saying our problems are more talent related is also saying we're playing really talented teams. Which were not. We were very fortunate to get into OT @ Miami. Probably the only team to beat us with better talent than us. What did they do today?

Really? Because NW has a higher avg star rating on their two deep than Nebraska, so did Wisconsin and BYU. Add to the fact that 29% of our two deep are walk ons and you get the result we are seeing. For being a realist you are sure not very informed.
 
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Also it must be hard for the Pelini guys to handle the fact MR in his first year with Nebraska's worst roster since the 60's is closer to being undefeated at 3-5 than any of Bo's teams were.

Cool. Maybe this team will go to the "Almost Bowl" this year.

I'm amazed at how detached from reality some of you are. We are what our record says we are. We are no closer to being undefeated than any other team with 5 losses. To say otherwise is ludicrous.

The simple truth is that we have an over the hill HC who has always been just average. That's not going to change. Our record this year is a direct reflection of this.
 
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You can throw insults around all you want, you will not change my view that this staff is everything the Oregon State fans said it was.

I honestly could care less about if you change your views. I brought facts to this conversation while you just continue to drone on with the same agenda. You do you man. When MR and staff get their players in here and start winning I don't want to hear anything from you about supporting this team and staff.
 

barney44

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Hes correct, when Bo go here he had Suh, then had nice trio of back, Helu, Burkhead and Abdullah, then he also had Prince and Dennard, L David and Randy Gregory. Bo had a lot of help, thanks to Callahans recruiting. Riley did not get the same love left over from Bo. There is a huge difference, if you want to admit it or not.

Gregory, Abdullah and David were not thanks to Callahan..
 

barney44

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I honestly could care less about if you change your views. I brought facts to this conversation while you just continue to drone on with the same agenda. You do you man. When MR and staff get their players in here and start winning I don't want to hear anything from you about supporting this team and staff.

What facts did you bring?

I asked you for some simple positives and you dodged that by trying to toss around insults..