THIS IS THE OPINION I AM HANGING MY HAT ON. We all have far less of a clue than in past seasons due to the new nature of things. So, at this part of the season, I choose to see my Pirates in the best light possible. It makes me happy. The games will be played to make this thought look wise or foolish. But while we are in the realm of what might be, my might bes are gonna be positive! And if we look bad to start, I will remember a Pirate team that struggle to beat NJIT in an exhibition becoming the team that beat Uconn by 15 and won the NIT (an event I found terrifically exciting and rewarding unlike so many others here.)
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...and we'll just have to keep reading the regurgitation of that "thinking" ad infinitum, apprarently.
More likely they did not want to play 4 games in Walsh.
Playing in Walsh cost the school big time money.
Playing in Walsh cost the school big time money.
Not really ......just don't force yourself to read anything you disagree with. That simple.
Agree with this. There will be plenty of time to be miserable if things go south.
It's not that I disagree with it all, necessarily, it's just that you've been grinding this axe going on a calendar year.
Really? That's what you came up with there?
Let's say there are 5.000 full season ticket holders in Newark (I think that's a reasonable estimate). That's four times what can fit in Walsh and those tickets are paid for even if the Rock is completely empty that night.
Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if the buy rate for UNH is less than it would be for any of the teams we're playing at Walsh if those games were actually taking place in Newark.
As Halldan notes, we take a large revenue hit playing games at Walsh as opposed to Newark. Between tickets and the season ticket holder surcharge, I'm paying $80 a ticket per game. I'm on the high end but you get the idea. You cannot price Walsh tickets comparably.
That we are playing three games there is not helpful to our program in any way.
Can someone walk me through that math? I assume terrible weeknight non conf games at the Rock don’t bring in all that many non-season ticket holding fans. I also assume our costs to rent out the Rock are significantly higher than our costs to put on a game at Walsh.
All true. But season tickets make up for the difference even if they no show.
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What do we pay a visiting team at Walsh v. the Rock? Would we get lot of TV revenue from UNH? To me as a fan, that one conjures up thoughts of our dramatic game vs. Caldwell College of a few years past.
Thinking that if 4000 of the 5000 ticket-holder dressed as "empty seats" (Don Criqui) it's a really bad look. Don't know the specifics, but Fairfield would have been a better game and draw for Newark. Active alumi, big in the NYC area, close enough to travel, and the teams biggest game and venue of the season (within 75 miles of home).
OK. I get it financially, I think. What does it cost to play a game at the Rock: ushers, concessions, security, etc.?
What do we pay a visiting team at Walsh v. the Rock? Would we get lot of TV revenue from UNH? To me as a fan, that one conjures up thoughts of our dramatic game vs. Caldwell College of a few years past.
Thinking that if 4000 of the 5000 ticket-holder dressed as "empty seats" (Don Criqui) it's a really bad look. Don't know the specifics, but Fairfield would have been a better game and draw for Newark. Active alumi, big in the NYC area, close enough to travel, and the teams biggest game and venue of the season (within 75 miles of home).
The St Peters Elite 8 team was NOT a good offensive team that year until the tournament. And how much of that was was really Sha's offensive schemes in the tournament vs Whalen?
Not saying we don't need good players but it's palpably obvious when a coach is clueless offensively. I have yet to be convinced we will ever be a capable offensive team. Until proven otherwise, offense is not a Sha strongpoint.
The math still doesn’t math to me.
Season ticket revenue is what it is no matter where we play the games. I assume the same is true of guarantees to opposing teams. Incremental ticket sales is probably a wash as well between Walsh and the Rock.
Moving 3 games to Walsh saves us $240k in Prudential costs. I’ll assume 3 games at Walsh cost us $30k to put on.
Not trying to break balls with this line of questioning. Just genuinely want to understand.