All of a sudden James is an icon. I'll save this for the first loss of the season. Talk about hypocrites.
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Sounds like a horror movie..."Son of Surma." A hairy bald kid that sweats profusely!
Think $1 billion would be enough to get it done?
rolls off the tongue: west shore homes field at paterno stadium
Hammer meet nail.
Seeing the name "Joe Paterno Field" during live TV broadcasts ... the vitriol against Penn State would be off the charts. Anybody who doesn't think that the negative consequences for that (CFP rankings, TV appearances, recruiting) would cost Penn State down the road is blind to the realities of life.
Pretty much sums it up.
I would also like to point out, that despite the vitriol and angst, the Paterno name is still on the library.
Your statement was more clear and used less words than mine
It certainly wouldn't be impacting CFP rankings and TV appearances. And also very unlikely to have an impact on recruiting...then again, you never know what's going to swing a single recruit. There would be some blowback, but not nearly to the extent that you're thinking.
What is your source/evidence for 'bringing in significantly more revenue' than the West Shore deal? Sorry if provided in another thread.
Erial, I may have over-exaggerated somewhat, but the CFP committee is made up of humans that have biases and prejudices like all of us. Certainly, if Penn State were the only 13-0 team in the country, they are not going to get bounced out of the #1 seed.
But, if they are 9-3 and in the discussion with a couple of other 9-3 teams for the 8 seed (home game) or 9 seed (on the road), I'm willing to bet (see what I did there) that some of the folks on that committee would silently slot Penn State at #9 for no other reason than their prejudices against Joe Paterno and the fact that Penn State blatantly honored him by putting his name on the field.
Ok...I agree, let's deal with realities. With that said, what is the reality in the context of donations? Would you agree that the most if not all of donations are made by alumni and people who have an interest in Penn State? So forget about those outsiders who still believe the false narratives that the media pushed during the JS affair. These people don't make donations to Penn State. So, amongst the former, do you believe the reality is that the majority of these people believe what happened to JVP was just? If it only comes down to money, it would be wise of the BOT and administration to determine which side of this issue the donors fall. As cold and caustic as that sounds....it is the reality in the context of money.
Interesting point I also consider that soon that will be 15-20 years ago and how many people are around in those key decision making positions are there that remember that time frame and the pure vitriol that was everywhere. Thus let affect their decisions on whether PSU would get in or not.
Franklin isn't an icon. Or a speed bump. He's a football coach. What does his first loss of the season have to do with that? And what's hypocritical about calling a football coach a football coach? You may not understand these terms.
Why would you love that?
Regardless, Joe had something to with Beaver Stadium getting from its (not "it's") 1966 version to today's version. Now what? Am I obligated to fund a statue, naming rights and the renaming of Saturday to Paternoday for all mankind? Or can we just acknowledge that JoePa impacted this program and then move on with our lives?
Ah, so you realize you messed up, but you're not man enough to admit it. Got it. We now take you back to your childish rants about JoePa and Franklin ...
Was talking to several friends who are alumni of PSU and they said when PSU calls for money and donations the callers have notes and ask I know in the past you have said you won't give another dime until PSU does something to honor Joe do you still feel the same or are you willing to donate any money now? They all said their responses were the same .... Nope and hang yup. I still believe PSU is missing getting a large chunk of money as Lubrano and others have said until they do something to honor Joe and Sue.
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But, anyone who cares about "college" football these days knows that players don't go to the library. And the networks certainly won't show it during their game coverage.
Detailed in my comments to the Board (the video link is posted somewhere on the board, anyone can access)) and my newsletter
Well, I just hate seeing people feeling unloved, so I will tell you that it had nothing to do with Joe. I'm not saying that I believe it, but I hope you feel better.
Go polish your letter earned for shadow boxing.
Are the “options that could bring in significantly more revenue” in the room with us right now?
Excellent post.....and an even better question. Reason no one answers your question is because of age....this difference of opinion seems to run along time. Those who attended PSU during 60s and 70s have a far different opinion than those attending during the 2000s. This is not to disparage the younger alumni...they didn' experience all that occurred during those growth years. Instead they experienced Erickson, Peetz, Frazier, Surma et all.
To be grammatical incorrect, Joe did not have "nothing" to do with, but had everything to do with it....period.
Luckily living in the South...there is very little vitriol as you predict....most people I meet traveling all say Joe got the shaft to protect others...daily I receive a "We Are".....
Then I would suggest that the "younger" generation of fans suffer from entitlement. As they have national championship appetites....but are guilty of failing to appreciate the foundations of success that the program was built upon.
The Georgia fans I've spoken to have all held him in high regard.
And, again, we're just subjected to nonsensical posts pumping up JoePa ... as if that matters and ends the discussion.
You can like and respect JoePa and still not think we need to rename buildings, fields, or anything else ... and still think we don't need to forego selling naming rights ... and still not just want to spend all our days living in the past.
The topic is selling naming rights ... and what's transpired is a bunch of people fawning over JoePa and trying to chastise people for not thinking about him like they do.
Damn, this is tedious. Focus.
You can like and respect JoePa and still not think we need to rename buildings, fields, or anything else ... and still think we don't need to forego selling naming rights ... and still not just want to spend all our days living in the past.
The topic is selling naming rights ... and what's transpired is a bunch of people fawning over JoePa and trying to chastise people for not thinking about him like they do.
Damn, this is tedious. Focus.
Here's the other tragic part of all this:
JoeBot: "JoePa was the greatest ... we owe him everything ... I so look up to the guy and respect what he did and what he stood for. That's why we need a statue. And the stadium/field named after him."
Person Not in a Cult: "JoePa wouldn't want a statue, or the stadium/field named after him. He made this clear. In fact, it was at the heart of what he stood for."
JoeBot: "Why would we listen to JoePa?!? We're here to respect him and show that we learned from him by not listening to what he taught or respecting his wishes!"
JoeBot: "JoePa was the greatest ... we owe him everything ... I so look up to the guy and respect what he did and what he stood for. That's why we need a statue. And the stadium/field named after him."
Person Not in a Cult: "JoePa wouldn't want a statue, or the stadium/field named after him. He made this clear. In fact, it was at the heart of what he stood for."
JoeBot: "Why would we listen to JoePa?!? We're here to respect him and show that we learned from him by not listening to what he taught or respecting his wishes!"
You are always welcome to scroll on by and not respond or read that way it won't be so tedious for you.
Very interesting phone I just received from West Shome Homes.....asking about any home improvements I am considering....so was the Alumni membership list part of the negotiations to agree to the sponsorship?
That kind of money doesn't come free... expect calls, emails, texts, etc
Depends on if you're schizophrenic or have dementia. If so, yes, they're here.
Your comments are so stale you have become comical. I agree that NO building or entity should need a name....so the Lincoln Memorial, the Walt Whitman Bridge, Fort Eisenhower, and nearly every naval ship should be stripped of their name. I have shown the tiny amount of money PSU is boasting about could have been accomplished while honoring Joe. The BOT refuses to even consider that. Remember this is a gift paid over 15 years, not a lump sum.
No one is chastising you or others for not knowing, understanding everything Joe did, achieved, and accomplished to bring PSU from a farming school in the 60's to a leader in academics, athletics, and research in the 21st century. Joe influenced much more than just the football team.
I understand nothing here will change your opinion.