Sources close to the program are telling me the athletics department has made a huge push over the last two days for student tickets. A little under 100 remaining hopefully they can sell out by Saturday.
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That's good, but they also have to show up.
All the Walsh games were sold out in the lower tier but hundreds of students in all three games no showed despite having tickets.
All the Walsh games were sold out in the lower tier but hundreds of students in all three games no showed despite having tickets.
Agreed. But they also have to travel to the game instead of just crossing campus to Walsh.
The last few years the students have let the team down. That has to change.
The last few years the students have let the team down. That has to change.
What we need is one of our Gen Z posters to itemize their list of grievances with everything and anybody.
It might be a good idea to actually ask them. This has been a downward trend and we all see the world through our lens. I’m 50 years older than the current student body. I have no idea why they choose not to go.
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i remember the late Mrs Ade asking me to take a few extra free tickets back in the day and try to give them to some friends.
for a while, the students did a good job
for a while, the students did a good job
I knew of a freshman last year who was incredibly excited to go to the games who didn't bother to go by the middle of the year. Do you all forget how bad they were last year? It's going to take a pretty substantial season that's actually fun to attend to begin brining student anticipation of games back.
You'll get a one off bump here, but let's see whether there's any sustaining it to a mundane game not named UConn, St. John's or Villanova.
You'll get a one off bump here, but let's see whether there's any sustaining it to a mundane game not named UConn, St. John's or Villanova.
I get it but you’re in college…rooting for your sports teams is part of the experience.
You go to hang with your friends, to have some fun, and if you’re fortunate may be a cold one or two.
And yes, you want the team to be good but it’s not like it’s your protein, and you run, cold and hot; you should go just to have fun, and last year is now LAST YEAR! This year is nothing like last year so far, so get with the program students and show up.
I will never understand it, I went to SHU from 2018-2022 so of course was spoiled with great teams so had no excuse but it’s not like we’re a huge party school or have much else to do not sure what’s better than going to a game any given day.
As one Bob Dylan song said it best re “college” basketball: “times they are a changin”.
My nephew, who is 28, was telling me that younger people are less interested in basketball than previous generations.
He said many of his friends don't really watch. He is a basketball fan but gave up playing as a teenager to focus on soccer.
FWIW, he attended a school that has a very successful basketball history but has dropped off a bit in the past decade.
My experience, on the other hand, was 10 Big East wins in four years and I know there are others here who have seen worse.
He said many of his friends don't really watch. He is a basketball fan but gave up playing as a teenager to focus on soccer.
FWIW, he attended a school that has a very successful basketball history but has dropped off a bit in the past decade.
My experience, on the other hand, was 10 Big East wins in four years and I know there are others here who have seen worse.
I was a freshman the year Whitehead and co came to the Hall so there was a natural buzz around the team. Apparently now you have to pre register for a bus to the pru so you cant really go last minute (I find that hard to believe). Theres really no excuse not to fill 500 seats we dont exactly attend school in Miami here theres not that much to do
Once again, I think you need to ask the students. It could be a numbers game as most of those P5 schools have much bigger student bodies. It could also be that kids that like the big university/sports P5 experience go to that school because of the fan experience. There are kids that opt for the small school experience and aren't as interested in crowd mentality stuff. Finally, it could be a COVID hangover for some kids...just more comfortable in non-social environments. I don't know and not judging if its right or wrong, but as someone stated earlier, it is a trend at the school and a little market research may yield the reasons.
I understand the need to delve deep, even to rationalize why the students are not supporting the team. But again, we are talking about 500 seats, probably less as the band and family members sit in the lower tier. And yet a school with 6,145 students as of last Fall can't fill Walsh given that they get free tickets. Tickets that they gobble up and then don't show when others probably want to attend.
I know that the school is dealing with the students to attend these games. But it's not working as it should, even though to date this team is a top 40 squad in the country.
I know that the school is dealing with the students to attend these games. But it's not working as it should, even though to date this team is a top 40 squad in the country.
What would it cost for 4 people to split an Uber straight down South Orange Ave.? Just wondering out loud.
Saturday will be the test for students showing up if they do and we win it should ignite the students to future games . Go PIRATES !!!!!!
There has certainly been a culture shift for whatever reason. I have my own theories, but it's up to the school to find out why students don't go to the games. The student section was fantastic under Willard - I cannot emphasize that enough. For whatever reason when Sha came on board student engagement dropped off a cliff, and I don't buy "the team was bad last year excuse." In 2024 we were 13-7 playing what was universally believed to be a "win and in" game and still students didn't show up. We finished 4th in the conference and still couldn't get students to the game. Does everyone remember the Seton Hall social media post in 2024 - "roses are red violets are blue seton hall students where are you?" (posted a picture of a 90% empty student section)
Exactly. There are reasons why they are not showing up. A bunch of old guys on a message board can rationalize all we want, but whatever the school is trying, has not been working.
and the snarky side of me can use this board as example where the school (and the coach) could give two s- - ts about what we think.
Yes, winning should solve all the problems, but it doesn’t always. People are being paid to figure it out.
It's clearly not a winning issue. It's a culture issue.
People that can't see that are at best naive or at worst willfully ignorant.
Yes, but someone was pointing to the fact that reserving a spot on the buses was difficult. Can't be more than a $20 Uber/Lyft ride.
Coincidentally, Carino touches on this culture shift in his article today....
"A week out from the 2025 contest, many Seton Hall student-tickets remained unclaimed. That’s a stark departure from as recently as 2021, when a whopping 2,600 students – more than a third of the university’s entire undergraduate enrollment – turned out for the Rutgers game. But student attendance has declined noticeably since that season. Even in 2023-24, as the Pirates made an NCAA Tournament push on their way to a fourth-place Big East finish, the student section was a shell of what it had been just a few years earlier."
"A week out from the 2025 contest, many Seton Hall student-tickets remained unclaimed. That’s a stark departure from as recently as 2021, when a whopping 2,600 students – more than a third of the university’s entire undergraduate enrollment – turned out for the Rutgers game. But student attendance has declined noticeably since that season. Even in 2023-24, as the Pirates made an NCAA Tournament push on their way to a fourth-place Big East finish, the student section was a shell of what it had been just a few years earlier."
From that, it would appear that any COVID "hangover" in 2025-26 is not a legitimate cause.
We’re always going to have a rough time getting students to games because this is not a “college football” experience.
What I mean by this is that a majority of the college experience is revolves around liquor.
Do Rutgers fans actually enjoy watching their crappy team? Most likely not. The tailgating experience is what drives a ton of the college experience with athletic teams.
Should we encourage this at a Catholic institution? Probably not. But let’s not be naive about why students enjoy most college athletic experiences.
What I mean by this is that a majority of the college experience is revolves around liquor.
Do Rutgers fans actually enjoy watching their crappy team? Most likely not. The tailgating experience is what drives a ton of the college experience with athletic teams.
Should we encourage this at a Catholic institution? Probably not. But let’s not be naive about why students enjoy most college athletic experiences.
$29.91 for a scheduled 7pm pick up on campus to prudential center Saturday
In all seriousness, how does having a future drinks and being a Catholic University matter. Do you think these public universities encourage students to get hammered?
I do think there may be a carryover that the tailgate experience for football creates a culture that carries into the basketball season (and other sports). They may not do it on the same scale, but still find a way to party.
Not sure many saw but on Cyber Monday they offered two tickets for $25 to the Villanova and Creighton games. Both games are during the break. I thought that was one of the better ideas they have come up with. The tickets were in the student section.
I’m hearing we’re nearing 1k student tickets
I think your last line here identifies a big part of the problem. Nobody's really being paid to figure it out because there's a prevailing attitude that simply winning will solve everything.
It’s more like 1,500 tickets.
No it's not. We're talking about just the student allocation which is the lower tier. The upper tier is for alums and SHU fans.
And the capacity of Walsh is 1300 not 1500.
Where are the lobsters???? That was a good student section during those Willard years. Bring them back!