The City of NY has always been fairly Liberal in my lifetime. After last night's results...

dpic73

Heisman
Jul 27, 2005
24,218
18,361
113
I replied to this part of it. Should have removed the first part.

Yes, 9% is bad but that was three years ago and most of us understand how it happened.
What makes that ********? I acknowledged that we had 9% inflation 3 years ago and we understand how it happened. What's wrong with that statement?
 
  • Like
Reactions: yoshi121374

DCandtheUTBand

Freshman
Sep 1, 2022
106
73
18
Biden Eggs ~$5 per dozen due inflation and gov mandated culling.
Today $1.96 @ Aldi.

Milk ~$3.50 before Trump
Now $2.76 or $2.46 I cant quite remember @ Aldi.

Gas near $3.50 under Biden now $2.43 @ BJs Wholesale.

Beef through the roof and part of why Trump bailed out Argentina. Hopefull the beef shortage and be aliviated and prices brought down. I paid $5.96 @ food lion tonight with MVP. Claim is screwworms in Mex and shortage of cattle in USoA.

Overall I have seen a significant reduction in prices on most items since Trump election. I also shop sales and there seem to be more deals now than last year.

I shop Aldi, Walmart, Sams, Costoco, and BJs.
 

RichOne420

All-American
Feb 6, 2009
2,845
5,791
113
The brain impacted libtards are living in a state of cognitive dissonance and gloss over any facts that do not feed their TDS.
Facts show you have an accused child rapist as your avatar and have the audacity to claim others live in a state of cognitive dissonance. I always chuckle at the low IQ's that pretend to be educated. Especially when they expose themselves in glorious fashion.
 

fatpiggy

Heisman
Aug 18, 2002
20,773
19,328
113
Thank goodness Biden fixed Trumps unemployment he passed to him. He got unemployment way down.
I see what you are implying, but I just disagree. Biden admin policies were highly inflationary. He had 3 years to bring prices down and knew the economy and inflation were the biggest issue in the election and he still couldn’t get it to levels that satisfied voters.

Inflation is still above target level right now under Trump. IMO voters want it lower and he needs to work on it.
 

MTTiger19

All-American
Sep 10, 2008
3,745
6,509
113
Don't read too much into it. All the other races were in solidly Democratic states and it truely would have been an upset if a Republican won. Would have gotten a better read if some purple states had governor or mayor elections.
This was nothing more than a morale boost. Every race they won they were favored. I don’t understand how this is being misconstrued as some type of rebellion against the right. They won an election in NY, NJ, VA and CA, so what. All of those bites blue in 2024, less than a year ago, of course democrats won. These are off year races in democratic strongholds. Nothing to see here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: fatpiggy

fatpiggy

Heisman
Aug 18, 2002
20,773
19,328
113
This was nothing more than a morale boost. Every race they won they were favored. I don’t understand how this is being misconstrued as some type of rebellion against the right. They won an election in NY, NJ, VA and CA, so what. All of those bites blue in 2024, less than a year ago, of course democrats won. These are off year races in democratic strongholds. Nothing to see here.
Democrats won in heavily democratic states such as NY, NJ, CA, and VA.

If they had lost any of those it would have been a huge upset. Maybe Va is purple. Maybe.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TigerGrowls

UrHuckleberry

Heisman
Jun 2, 2024
6,843
14,245
113
I see what you are implying, but I just disagree. Biden admin policies were highly inflationary. He had 3 years to bring prices down and knew the economy and inflation were the biggest issue in the election and he still couldn’t get it to levels that satisfied voters.

Inflation is still above target level right now under Trump. IMO voters want it lower and he needs to work on it.
You want to say inflation was and is an issue, no arguments, want to say you feel Biden’s policies were inflationary, again no issues with the opinion at all. But want to act like 9% was in a standard, no other reason vacuum, I’m always going to point out Trump’s unemployment number that also wasn’t in a vacuum.
 

MTTiger19

All-American
Sep 10, 2008
3,745
6,509
113
Democrats won in heavily democratic states such as NY, NJ, CA, and VA.

If they had lost any of those it would have been a huge upset. Maybe Va is purple. Maybe.
If they would’ve lost one of those races they could’ve just shut the whole thing down. That’s how concerned they were. They were willing to keep millions of government employees from getting paid so they can energize their base. It worked but to what extent and at what cost. Do you think real moderates are watching Chuck Schumer and the leftists and thinking they want to hitch themselves to that? Absolutely not. Normal Americans, middle class workers do not agree with them.
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: fatpiggy and dpic73

tigerGUY

Heisman
Aug 22, 2001
102,172
42,973
113
Grok


Walmart’s 2025 Thanksgiving Dinner Cost


Walmart’s annual Thanksgiving meal basket for 2025 is their most affordable yet, priced at under $40 total (approximately $39.92 before tax) to serve 10 people—or less than $4 per person. This marks a significant drop from last year’s price of under $50 (about $7 per person), driven by lower turkey costs and Walmart’s value-focused sourcing. The bundle includes a 13.5-pound Butterball turkey (priced at 97 cents per pound) and 15 classic items for a full feast, such as stuffing, sides, rolls, and pumpkin pie ingredients. It’s available for one-click ordering online via Walmart’s website or app, with pickup or delivery options through December 25 (free express delivery for first-time customers).


What’s Included in the Standard Basket


Here’s the complete list of items in the traditional meal basket:


CategoryItems
MainButterball Frozen Whole Turkey (13.5 lb)
StuffingStove Top Stuffing Mix, Savory Herb (6 oz)
VegetablesFresh Russet Potatoes (5 lb)
Fresh Cranberries (12 oz)
Great Value Baby Carrots (2 lb)
Great Value Corn (15 oz, 3 cans)
Great Value Green Beans (14.5 oz, 3 cans)
CasseroleGreat Value Artisan Mac & Cheese (12 oz, 3 boxes)
Durkee French Fried Onions (2.8 oz)
GravyGreat Value Brown Gravy Mix (0.87 oz, 2 packets)
RollsGreat Value Dinner Rolls (12 ct)
DessertGreat Value Evaporated Milk (12 fl oz)
Great Value 100% Pure Pumpkin (15 oz)

This setup provides generous portions for traditional dishes like green bean casserole, mashed potatoes, and pumpkin pie.


Additional Meal Options


Walmart also introduced expanded “one-click” baskets this year:


  • Gluten-Free Thanksgiving Meal: Full spread with gluten-free alternatives, around $50 for 10 people.
  • Balanced Thanksgiving Swaps: Healthier options like high-protein mac & cheese and cauliflower mash, about $30 for 10.
  • Prime Rib Meal Basket: Features Choice Angus beef, salad, potatoes, and wine as a turkey alternative, just over $30.

Comparison to National Average


For context, the American Farm Bureau Federation estimated the average cost of a classic Thanksgiving dinner for 10 at $58.08 in 2024—making Walmart’s deal a notable saver, especially with turkey prices down to their lowest since 2019.


If you’re shopping, no Walmart+ membership is required, but it unlocks perks like free unlimited delivery. Prices may vary slightly by location, so check Walmart’s site for exact totals.
My wife's immune system went to **** 20+ years ago. It took forever to have the gluten problem brought to light. Walmart's gluten free meal is a little under $50. Any deal you go with is a slam dunk IMO. Walmart hit a freaking Grand Slam. Thanks to whomever brought it up!!
 

fatpiggy

Heisman
Aug 18, 2002
20,773
19,328
113
You want to say inflation was and is an issue, no arguments, want to say you feel Biden’s policies were inflationary, again no issues with the opinion at all. But want to act like 9% was in a standard, no other reason vacuum, I’m always going to point out Trump’s unemployment number that also wasn’t in a vacuum.
I don't think 9% was standard but I think the Biden admin was tone deaf in it's response and exaggerated the problem. This is evidenced by dems trying to pass BBB while inflation was near it's peak. They were only thwarted by one vote in Joe Manchin. Personally i think their response to inflation was the deciding factor in the election because it's my opinion the economy and inflation were the biggest issues that voters based their votes on.

Republicans are running the same risks now. While inflation has been reduced it is still too high. Looking at the numbers i feel like housing inflation is the largest factor. Energy inflation has been crushed. Grocery inflation has been reduced to normal levels. But housing is where people are disenfranchised. I think its part of the reason why young people are turning to socialism. They feel the capitalist system is leaving them behind. They can't afford a place to live why should they support that system? They don't feel like they can ever catch up.

I would like to see republicans make an effort to increase housing supply, bring prices down, and make housing more affordable especially for young people.

Mamdami won on making things more affordable. I just don't agree that freezing rents or offering free housing will be the solution. But voters wanted to try that way and so that is the way it will be. I have serious doubts but if it works more power to them.
 

dpic73

Heisman
Jul 27, 2005
24,218
18,361
113
How many of these people would’ve won in a swing state?
Someone sounds like they're tryin to cope.

First of all New Jersey has a history of electing Republican governors so a 13 pt. win over a quality R opponent is significant.

Former Governors - New Jersey​

Governor's NameStateTime in OfficeParty
Gov. Christopher ChristieNew Jersey2010 - 2018Republican
Gov. John O. BennettNew Jersey2002 - 2002Republican
Gov. Donald T. DiFrancescoNew Jersey2001 - 2002Republican
Gov. Christine Todd WhitmanNew Jersey1994 - 2001Republican
Gov. Thomas H. KeanNew Jersey1982 - 1990Republican

And the wins weren't just in blue states


Remember how you also dismissed the polls and the No Kings rallies? Yeah well, you're free not to listen but a message is definitely being sent.
 

DCandtheUTBand

Freshman
Sep 1, 2022
106
73
18
I take Tai Chi with a lady nearing her 80s. She went to a No Kings rally. I laughed and shook my head.

As Reagan said about Dems/Libs/Lefties "The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Indoctrinated single white woman are the worst ones as the propaganda of the left gets them in the "feels."

I have worked with and been around enough to know they buy any and every left wing narrative. They allow their empathy to override logic.

They would be against Trump for that reason alone but add his persona into the mix and its gasoline on a 10 alarm fire.
 

tigres88

All-Conference
Aug 7, 2022
962
3,408
93
I take Tai Chi with a lady nearing her 80s. She went to a No Kings rally. I laughed and shook my head.

As Reagan said about Dems/Libs/Lefties "The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Indoctrinated single white woman are the worst ones as the propaganda of the left gets them in the "feels."

I have worked with and been around enough to know they buy any and every left wing narrative. They allow their empathy to override logic.

They would be against Trump for that reason alone but add his persona into the mix and its gasoline on a 10 alarm fire.
Or, you could be a human being and hold empathy and logic in both hands.

Conservatives are binary thinkers, with no nuance. Their brains aren't developed enough to think outside themselves.

This is a sign of little emotional intelligence, but also little logical intelligence. Thinking is hard. Nuance is hard. Empathy is hard.

But you take the easy way out, and anything that threatens that little box you're in makes you get a wittle bit scared. That's ok, but it's certainly not a sign of health, intelligence, or maturity.
 

Doppler Effect

All-American
Dec 11, 2007
1,799
5,074
113
Or, you could be a human being and hold empathy and logic in both hands.

Conservatives are binary thinkers, with no nuance. Their brains aren't developed enough to think outside themselves.

This is a sign of little emotional intelligence, but also little logical intelligence. Thinking is hard. Nuance is hard. Empathy is hard.

But you take the easy way out, and anything that threatens that little box you're in makes you get a wittle bit scared. That's ok, but it's certainly not a sign of health, intelligence, or maturity.
Why can't you make a point without insulting people? Putting down someone who doesn't agree with you is the sign of an insecure person, the experts say.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DCandtheUTBand

tigres88

All-Conference
Aug 7, 2022
962
3,408
93
Why can't you make a point without insulting people? Putting down someone who doesn't agree with you is the sign of an insecure person, the experts say.
Tell The president that, the entire MAGA party that, and the post I quoted, who was "insulting" liberals. He said he laughed at the 80 year old woman.

Liberals didn't start the name calling and insults of the MAGA party, but we certainly aren't going to roll over and be insulted by idiots either. So we'll fight back.

Sorry it hurt your feelings though, doppler effect.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dpic73

UrHuckleberry

Heisman
Jun 2, 2024
6,843
14,245
113
I don't think 9% was standard but I think the Biden admin was tone deaf in it's response and exaggerated the problem. This is evidenced by dems trying to pass BBB while inflation was near it's peak. They were only thwarted by one vote in Joe Manchin. Personally i think their response to inflation was the deciding factor in the election because it's my opinion the economy and inflation were the biggest issues that voters based their votes on.

Republicans are running the same risks now. While inflation has been reduced it is still too high. Looking at the numbers i feel like housing inflation is the largest factor. Energy inflation has been crushed. Grocery inflation has been reduced to normal levels. But housing is where people are disenfranchised. I think its part of the reason why young people are turning to socialism. They feel the capitalist system is leaving them behind. They can't afford a place to live why should they support that system? They don't feel like they can ever catch up.

I would like to see republicans make an effort to increase housing supply, bring prices down, and make housing more affordable especially for young people.

Mamdami won on making things more affordable. I just don't agree that freezing rents or offering free housing will be the solution. But voters wanted to try that way and so that is the way it will be. I have serious doubts but if it works more power to them.
Those are all rational and genuine arguments. Even agree on a lot of it. I am not a "everything the dems do is right" person.

My pushback was on using an unqualified and disingenuous argument or figure previously alone.
 

fatpiggy

Heisman
Aug 18, 2002
20,773
19,328
113
Those are all rational and genuine arguments. Even agree on a lot of it. I am not a "everything the dems do is right" person.

My pushback was on using an unqualified and disingenuous argument or figure previously alone.
I don't agree with your assessment that it was unqualified or disingenuous. I gave clear, logical, reasons for my stance.
 

UrHuckleberry

Heisman
Jun 2, 2024
6,843
14,245
113
wasn't unemployment in 2020 COVID based?
YES. Literally my point. I wouldn't use that unemployment number and act like covid didn't exist. But using the 9% inflation number and acting like covid (and the huge aid packages passed under Trump as well) and the post-covid recovery WORLDWIDE didn't exist is equally as disingenuous.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dpic73