Are you on here talking about how trump is ruining America with his corruption?
Trump accepts $400M jet "gift" from Quatar a week after announcing $5B golf resort plan. Just blatant corruption wow.
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Well that party seriously won and they are making serious changes. So it may be time to start coping.
Dont forget he is a Lib still but not a socialist lefty....
Hillary got way more than that. There is a reason she destroyed evidence. Most money was funneled thru the Clinton Foundation, including hundreds of millions from places like Russia...
Of course, more “it’s other peoples faults” from MAGA. Accountability starts at the top and it’s no surprise MAGA posters completely lack it given who they support.
I think the whatabout thing got started for this very reason. There’s no consistency in the message.
always projecting the playbook never changes for you tards.... Must suck being so wrong about almost everything and getting pounded in Nov like a 13 year old at a Diddy party.....
Come on man. You said R’s don’t have a backbone for not calling this out and I simply showed that it’s probably not just the R’s. We both know that if the previous administration doesn’t go brain dead over the border this isn’t even an issue. If the constituents of that party had a backbone they would’ve demanded change, they didn’t.
Trying to decipher the dumb **** you post is almost a full time job. Stick to Tim pool videos and the zealot-like jihad against left wing pederasts, while ignoring whenever it’s a right wing rapist.
Remind me of a similar situation when non-MAGAs on here didn’t criticize it? It’s okay to admit you guys have a cult-like following up Trump and support anything he does despite how authoritarian it is. It’s pretty obvious you guys don’t truly want a democratic govt considering the complete lack of any pushback on the illegal **** trump has done. Even his own appointed judges have more spine than you guys.
The issue is just a little thing called the Constitution:
Article I, Section 9, Clause 8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
In other words, Trump can't accept the gift w/o congressional approval.
He's violating the Constitution by accepting it. That's it. Not that his supporters care about a little old thing like THAT. He's already said that he didn't swear to uphold the constitution anyway and you guys are fine with it. Honestly, I wouldn't have such a problem with it, if the deal didn't include giving it to the Trump Library when he leaves office. I suspect that there's not a plan for that plane to become some sort of Book Mobile, but for Trump to use however he wants. So Trump basically gets a half billion dollar plane for free and gets to fly around in it on the tax payer's dime.
The good news for Trump is that he doesn't give a **** what we think. He knows he's not getting another term and he's just going to make as much as possible in the next 3.5 years. Case in point... Tariffs "paused" over the weekend on Trump's time table and sure enough the DOW is up 1000 plus points. Trump and company knew that was coming and I bet he and his friends bought BIGLY last week. In a couple of weeks, they will cash out and Trump will say he's about to impose crazy tariffs again. DOW will crash a couple of thousand points. Then they will all buy in again and Trump will pause them again. Rinse and repeat with a few Trump bitcoin dinners in there this year for pay for access. Money, money, money.
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This is what i voted for.
Take the putt. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
The gift is to the US Department of Defense.
Emolument clause is not applicable here.
Take the putt. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
The Emolumnet Clause states that Trump can not accept the gift.
The gift is to the US Department of Defense.
Emolument clause is not applicable here.
If democrats didn't oppose every.single.thing.Trump.does then maybe people would listen to their concerns.
As it is, they are the little boy that cried wolf and no one is listening.
They should never have let the autopen issue those pardons. They have no legs to stand on.
As it is, they are the little boy that cried wolf and no one is listening.
They should never have let the autopen issue those pardons. They have no legs to stand on.
I think this is an overreaction is all I’m saying. I don’t disagree that it’s not by the book, there’s definitely been some liberties taken here. I don’t know the entire story and I’m also not a lawyer bro so give me a chance to ask a few questions and clarify.
This is a MAJOR part of the problem, the reactions are so over the damn top on every single little issue it’s damn near impossible to determine real problems or concerns from air. It’s so alarmist but only one way, we are talking about an airplane, if they’d showed this same urgency about millions of undocumented people I’d certainly be willing to listen more but it’s only a five alarm fire if one guy is doing it, otherwise it’s hush hush.
I think anyone can say the optics of this is pretty crazy. With that said, the biggest issue for me is that he's going to "keep" the jet after his term is over. I would have less issues with this if it remained as the new Air Force One after his presidency was done. With him keeping the plane after his presidency, it comes across moreso as a gift specifically to Trump instead of a gift to the USA and it's Precidency position.
All of you people who worship politicians are twisted. I see it more and more every year. He is a politician. It's what they do. The next guy will do the same thing. Politics has become people's religion.
The plane will transfer to his presidential library after Boeing delivers the new AF 1.
It’s not like he is going to be flying around on it.
Yeah, the delay in updating the plane and someone else doing it sooner makes sense to me as a reason. But it then becoming his personal plan afterwards loses me.
I'll have to look again then, my understanding is while it's transferred to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation, it will be for continued private use. But I could be totally wrong. None the less, I don't really understand why it wouldn't just continued to be used for continued gov use.
I agree that i think there is a distinction there. If he were to have access to fly the plane for personal use that would be a much different story and i hope that is not the case.
I asked AI and here is what it said
Once the Boeing 747-8 jet, gifted by Qatar to the U.S. Department of Defense for use as Air Force One, is transferred to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation no later than January 1, 2029, it is most likely to become a museum exhibit rather than remain operational for flying. Historical precedent supports this: for example, the Reagan Presidential Library displays a retired Air Force One (a Boeing 707) as a static exhibit for public viewing, and similarly, other presidential aircraft, like the one at the National Museum of the United States Air Force, are preserved as historical artifacts. A post on X from
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on May 12, 2025, also suggests the plane will likely be displayed for public viewing after its transfer, noting it is expected to become a "museum piece" rather than being used by other officials. While the plane could technically remain airworthy, maintaining it for flight would require significant costs for upkeep, crew, and compliance with aviation regulations, which is unlikely for a library-focused foundation. However, some sources, like CNN and The New York Times, mention the possibility of Trump continuing to use the plane post-presidency, implying it might not be immediately decommissioned, though this remains speculative and unconfirmed. Without clear evidence of plans to keep it operational, the most probable outcome is that it will serve as a static exhibit.
Yea, as long as it's not for private use, I have less issues then. I don't know much about his intended library, per wiki it's in planning, but I would hope all of the money assocatiated with the library would also be for public services.
Not sure I'd agree with the AI's comment as far as it's continued use. You could easily decommission an older plane and allocate those resources to keep this one in service.
Thanks for this though, makes more sense if this is indeed the case.
Let me try and reframe this. Does this not represent a major security risk?
Issue 1: What's the purpose of Air Force 1? Is it not to provide the President the ability to run the country form the air in a state-of-the-art SECURE bunker? How secure is it if its coming from the Qataris?
Issue 2: What will be the cost to taxpayers to retrofit it for Air Force 1 duty? Will the people be reimbursed for the expenditure if he takes the jet with him?
Was it the Moscow or Berlin Embassy, the US had to basically abandon? Rumored, they used local contractors only to find out the bldg was so full of bugs, it was unusable. These were not Palmetto Bugs, btw.
Issue 1: What's the purpose of Air Force 1? Is it not to provide the President the ability to run the country form the air in a state-of-the-art SECURE bunker? How secure is it if its coming from the Qataris?
Issue 2: What will be the cost to taxpayers to retrofit it for Air Force 1 duty? Will the people be reimbursed for the expenditure if he takes the jet with him?
Was it the Moscow or Berlin Embassy, the US had to basically abandon? Rumored, they used local contractors only to find out the bldg was so full of bugs, it was unusable. These were not Palmetto Bugs, btw.
The DOD receives the plane and will “strip it down to the studs “ as stated by Buzz Patterson who works in the air force and carried the nuclear football for Clinton.
Cause they have already ordered two new ones that are scheduled to be delivered in 2029.
Boeing is under contract to make them.
Keeping it now or later.
Now, the optics look like **** for starters. If he would have made this as a civilian no one would have batted an eye. If it was France (Air Bus) or some other traditional ally maybe less so. But a Middle Eastern country? It leaves bad taste in the mouth. Trump has never been one to worry about optics.
Keeping it later: Once all the high security stuff and what not is removed (at his expense), why not. Pay the taxpayer for the plane.
Agreed on civilian statement. I couldn’t care less where it came from. I understand how it looks bad though and that’s why I ask. I think the keeping it later solution is reasonable, certainly if he pays. I do not know the legality of that, but I’m cool with it. If it’s illegal then he needs to come up with a way to make it legit. This is ammo when your opponent was low on shells stuff.
thats slander. Also for your info i dont have a criminal record and have a honorable discharge from the US Army. So go **** yourself with your projecting....
Sure, seems reasonable.
But the whole thing seems like a much ado about nothing. It just seems like a Maryland man over reaction.
For example, the news framed it as Trump was going to keep the plane for personal use and it turns out that is just not true. That he was going to receive the gift directly, also not true. He stated directly in the press conference yesterday that there would be no personal use after leaving office.
If the media had got the facts straight to begin with, it would not have been seen as a big deal. Just like the Maryland man.
The rush to “get Trump” is old. It’s not working anymore. They boy cried wolf too many times.
Democrats are going to have to compete with policy ideas, not faux outrage, if they want to be competitive. I truly believe that’s a large part of why they are polling so low.
Wildly defensive. I was pointing out how half your posts are about rape. If I thought you raped I’d call you a rapist. As it turns out that’s how the English language works.