WVSPORTS.COM West Virginia guard McNeil into the transfer portal
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The question started with you doubting a big school would find NIL money to lure away a high quality lineman. Sure it might be less than they would for a stud QB, but it would still be something. And there are several teams that can afford to spend on a lineman what WVU could max out for a stud QB.
You and I both know its about money and the winning that gets that money. So what makes you think as things progress NIL deals won't go the way of coachs' salaries?
Schools like Bama may "shed depth" by letting go of guys not good enough to play for them. So sure they could shed a back-up LB that could start for us. However, they are shedding that depth in order to add better players. And if they have the option to get those better players from teams like WVU it is a net negative for the teams on WVU's level. I'm not sure why it's exciting that WVU may be able to pick up the scraps from programs like 'Bama while those same programs can equally pick the very best bits of WVU.
Problem is I see it as a guarantee that bigger programs are going to be in the ear of WVU's prime players. While its a no guarantee fight with other mid level power 5 teams as to whether WVU gets any of the decent scraps from those same bigger programs.
If the goal of WVU is to on a blue moon create a team with an outside shot at the CFB playoff, this is terrible for WVU. If the goal is to be the best "mid tier" team in all of CFB, but never really vie for the title, then you have a point that it could work in WVU's favor.
With what the market is currently for NIL deals, I doubt we get to the point where OL are drawing life changing money to make uprooting their life and changing football teams becomes appealing. But again, we will see how this evolves. If it goes the way of coaches salaries, then I’m sure WVU like it does on coaches salaries remain competitive but of course will not be a leader in the clubhouse.
With the year 1 returns very low for lesser known athletes, if the NCAA wanted to collectively bargain, the fact that 99% of these players are making very little or $0 in terms of NIL money would be to their benefit and they should try to come up with a minimum “salary” in exchange for a cap on the larger deals, and defined transfer windows.
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It’s not that cut and dry, a younger player at Bama, Clemson, LSU, etc who doesn’t want to wait their turn could be an elite player who is set to start his Jr year, but we can start them as a Soph. It could be beneficial if WVU can be ahead of the curve, but it seems both our FB and MBB coaches are content to let the portal be an exit door rather than an entryway into the program.
Cincinnati made it by the skin of their teeth. Two loss teams were being considered over them but those 2 loss teams did not win their final games. See Ohio State who would have vaulted over them easily. Did Cincinnati make it to the championship game? No because Alabama pushed them around like a peace of ****.
Losing Final Game that cost them the 4th spot.
Ohio State lost to Michigan
Oklahoma State lost in Big 12 title
ACC and PAC 12 sucked balls
ND who lost to Cincinnati nearly jumped to 4th spot but committee got scared of having a USF type cry baby.
You blaming coaches for the portal and NIL is freaking hilarious.
Erik Stevenson Replaces the Role of Departing Sean McNeil for WVU
Stevenson is a veteran guard who plays great defense and can get you double figures in scoring. In his senior season playing for Frank Martin at South Carolina, Stevenson averaged 11.6 points, 4.7 rebounds, 2.8 assists and 1.1 steals in 31 games. The 6-foot-3 guard shot 37 percent from the field, 33 percent from three and 98 percent from the free-throw line. Yes, you read that correctly, Stevenson missed one free-throw all season.“Honestly, we probably didn’t do a very good job in the portal,” Huggins said referring to last offseason.
Lmao…. Cincy holds the 4th spot for 3 weeks and owns a double digit road victory over the final 5th ranked team and it’s the “sKiN oF tHeIr tEeTh!” Some serious copium here.
Alabama pushes everyone around, so I don’t really understand why you think it’s relevant for this discussion. As I’ve said, NIL/Portal or not, the introduction of the CFP makes it nearly impossible for a school that isn’t “big money” to win it all given the need to go 11-1 or 12-0, likely need to win a CCG against probably a ranked opponent, then back to back wins against top 4 competition. OU and their endless conference titles hasn’t even gotten to a title game in this format, so I promise “NIL” isn’t the X factor keeping the mid tier programs from winning a title.
Cincy given its 8 players projected to be drafted clearly was a legitimately strong team regardless of the conference they came from. Not Bama good, but they had more future pros than our 2007 team IIRC.
Looky dopey little "five offensive linemen" fake WVU2010 is online!!! Let the stupid games begin!
Then beat a bunch of cupcake conference teams and then was spanked by Alabama.
Transfer Portal + NIL hurting more schools than it is helping.
Schools are losing athletes left and right in just about every sport. The days of being able to build depth on a college roster are now a part of the past. Baseball coaches have been managing rosters for 50 years with the draft and losing high school kids.
Roster management is no stranger to the world of college baseball, but it's taken on a whole new level with the transfer portal. You no longer are trying to build a program. You just have to build a team one year at a time. That is what the NIL and Transfer portal has done.
There are no rules involved...
The biggest issue with the transfer portal is that there are really no restrictions for when a player can enter the portal. Heck, your starting quarterback or starting point guard could plop his name into the portal a month before the season starts and now, the coaching staff doesn't have enough time to fill that player's spot.
Open your eyes.
Cincy was in the CFP and projects 8 players to be drafted, meaning they somehow staved off bigger programs from coming in and throwing NIL around for 8 guys who are next level good. That’s the bottom line, no matter how much spin you put on it, if they can do it then so can we.
If the schools/NCAA are so butthurt about the rules then they can get off their high horse and acknowledge that the players are their workforce, and figure out a way to collectively bargain with them. Their insistence they are “amateurs” when the court has said they aren’t, are why they can’t impose penalties for switching schools, as well as restrictions for when they transfer, and caps on mega deals that drive you nuts. Let them unionize, and renew the CBA every 4 years so each generation gets their say.
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We'll just have disagree. Because I see a situation where big and lateral teams are guaranteed to try to pull players like White, Slaton, Tavon, etc... While WVU will be fighting to get guys like Tony Fields if possible. Of course any of those guys we get in the portal that start looking like elite players are again guaranteed to have someone on their ear. I see the portal as giving WVU more a player with one year at multiple schoolsl scraps like the guard we just picked up in basketball rather than core talent to build a nationally competitive team around.
Bearcats football players joined the transfer portal this month.
Safety De'Arre McDonald
Kicker Alex Bales
WR Jordan Jones
OT Marcelo Mendiola
DL Zeiqui Lawton
...and no doubt growing
Bearcat Basketball
5 players hit the portal...
No worry's folks. Nothing to see here.
Safety De'Arre McDonald
Kicker Alex Bales
WR Jordan Jones
OT Marcelo Mendiola
DL Zeiqui Lawton
...and no doubt growing
Bearcat Basketball
5 players hit the portal...
No worry's folks. Nothing to see here.
Omg a kicker!?! The horror! He must be getting boatloads of NIL money from whatever school has the CEO of Lotrimin.
Keep your head in the sand.
MEANWHILE:
In less than a year, marketing deals for NCAA players have become a more than $500 million business. Football and basketball stars are assembling seven-figure endorsement portfolios with national brands.
Wealthy alumni super fans who might otherwise donate money for, say, new locker rooms are forming donor collectives and pooling tens of millions of dollars to entice top recruits. "Donors are paying for athletes to make appearances where an entire team shows up and spends an hour and a half at a meet-and-greet at a local restaurant,” says Blake Lawrence, co-founder and chief executive officer of online sponsorship marketplace Opendorse Inc., which connects brands and players. “They may walk in with zero dollars in their pocket and walk out with $10,000.”
College sports has grown into an entertainment juggernaut that generates almost $19 billion a year for the NCAA’s 1,100 schools—and affords top football coaches $10 million salaries—amateurism has become increasingly difficult to defend and police.
We keep going in circles. Idc about 18-22 year olds that play sports making money, and you posting articles about them making money doesn’t support anything that would change my mind. There isn’t a trade in the country that prohibits a person from making money like the NCAA did.
Any type of changes that you would support would need to come from a mutual agreement between the NCAA and the players. The NCAA doesn’t want to admit they are wrong, so this is what we got. As for its impact on the competitive balance, the 1st year of this saw a G5 team make the CFP and hold onto 8 draftable players, so everything you are afraid of can be overcome right now. I also see we are hosting a former UGA starting QB this week, do you think everyone on their board thinks the sky is falling now that they can’t stash players on the bench forever?
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You have already claimed sky is falling and WVU will never win With Brown.
Make up your mind.
Brown isn’t a permanent issue. You have waved the white flag before the scenario has even finished unfolding despite a big “W” for the little guy last year.