Man the portal sucks

It’s too easy for players to repeatedly leave but hey that’s what people wanted.

Nobody we lost is remotely close to a star player Texas has and will continue to be a massive net beneficiary of the portal.

EricNahlin said:

It’s too easy for players to repeatedly leave but hey that’s what people wanted.

“people”

seghorn said:

Nobody we lost is remotely close to a star player Texas has and will continue to be a massive net beneficiary of the portal.

Yet** sounds like its coming

seghorn said:

Nobody we lost is remotely close to a star player Texas has and will continue to be a massive net beneficiary of the portal.

I’m not sure. I think around sport players are going to be less likely to wait their turn to prove their value on the field. Waiting means not getting on the field and showing your potential NIL value to the market. There’s also a limited number of years to capitalize on this market. I’m not sure we are going to see players who know they are good wait on the depth chart for their opportunity's.

EricNahlin said:

It’s too easy for players to repeatedly leave but hey that’s what people wanted.

Phucking Humans

Burnt.orange.billy said:

Yet** sounds like its coming

wanna bet? We still havent lost an above average player.

seghorn said:

Nobody we lost is remotely close to a star player Texas has and will continue to be a massive net beneficiary of the portal.

i don’t think he was arguing that it hurts texas on the whole, just that it sucks

seghorn said:

wanna bet? We still havent lost an above average player.

Just going by the MOD thread.

seghorn said:

Nobody we lost is remotely close to a star player Texas has and will continue to be a massive net beneficiary of the portal.

Oh for sure, and I think I will mentally adjust. But, it’s just so starkly different from the college football I love.

magnet_lord said:

I am HAPPY players are getting paid, and getting more agency. Heck, these guys put their bodies on the line with little chance of actually playing pro, let alone making a career out of it. However, the current iteration of the portal is just soul crushing. Players like Livingstone and Cruz used to bake in the oven and end up being stars and fan favorites their last year. At least with football, there is a big enough roster to have to keep some players around to build a little camaraderie around the team. Basketball is lost. 5 new players each year, no thank you. okay, rant over… let’s go get some effing IOL. Hook em

@ him you coward! @theportal ...you suck!

DWill459 said:

I’m not sure. I think around sport players are going to be less likely to wait their turn to prove their value on the field. Waiting means not getting on the field and showing your potential NIL value to the market. There’s also a limited number of years to capitalize on this market. I’m not sure we are going to see players who know they are good wait on the depth chart for their opportunity's.

I personally think on a surface level it will more often than not appear we lost more than we gained. Nothing but love for these kids. Go do your thing. Thank goodness for Sark. We are back to playing chess.

It kinda does. The number of guys in it is just incredible and I hate seeing dudes on their third and fourth teams…in three years or less. It’s crazy. Can you imagine open free agency like this in pro sports?

There is a player that is thinking of hitting the portal who made $800k and $500k the last two years. He is unhappy with his current offer to stay. $1.3mm has been invested in this player yet the production. Has not been there yet and he is unhappy with his deal. So now he may walk despite being paid handsomely for his services the past two years as he develops. you see the Williams news out of Washington and you wonder how this is even sustainable when there is zero return on investment for those actually writing the checks. Many extremely wealthy donors refuse to allocate funds to this silliness. The Utah news should be eye opening. gone are long standing traditional and regional rivalries, the conferences are too big, and the players are no longer ordinary college students. The sport has changed dramatically and not necessarily for the better. I’m of the firm belief that the value lies in the brand and not the players. See how much these guys are worth and how much interest there would if a minor league was created without attachment to universities with vast alumni networks. Universities should take a hard line stand and follow the Ivy League model of not paying players and dare the NFL or private equity firms to start a league not affiliated with universities to complete with college football. My guess is it wouldn’t turn out so well.

Absolutely agree. Seeing Wisner leave after some of his performances absolutely sucks. Even with better structure and controls to improve it, the change to the sport has been done and it’s tainted a lot about what we love about college football.

Groundhog Day said:

There is a player that is thinking of hitting the portal who made $800k and $500k the last two years. He is unhappy with his current offer to stay. $1.3mm has been invested in this player yet the production. Has not been there yet and he is unhappy with his deal. So now he may walk despite being paid handsomely for his services the past two years as he develops. you see the Williams news out of Washington and you wonder how this is even sustainable when there is zero return on investment for those actually writing the checks. Many extremely wealthy donors refuse to allocate funds to this silliness. The Utah news should be eye opening. gone are long standing traditional and regional rivalries, the conferences are too big, and the players are no longer ordinary college students. The sport has changed dramatically and not necessarily for the better. I’m of the firm belief that the value lies in the brand and not the players. See how much these guys are worth and how much interest there would if a minor league was created without attachment to universities with vast alumni networks. Universities should take a hard line stand and follow the Ivy League model of not paying players and dare the NFL or private equity firms to start a league not affiliated with universities to complete with college football. My guess is it wouldn’t turn out so well.

I agree that the brands ultimately drive the value of CFB and everyone, players included, have to be careful about killing the golden goose with their greed. However, I think your suggestion is not feasible. Just because fans have an attachment to the schools doesn't mean that the quality of football doesn't matter to the value of of the overall product. No one wants to watch a bunch of bad players who otherwise never would have sniffed a scholarship. Schools would never universally agree to it either. Heck, before NIL, schools already illegally paid players, and they got a sizable competitive advantage if they paid enough.

seghorn said:

wanna bet? We still havent lost an above average player.

Parker was above average.

EricNahlin said:

It’s too easy for players to repeatedly leave but hey that’s what people wanted.

I keep trying to think of why it should be banned for logistical and practical purposes, but then the lawyer side of me is like why should you restrict the movement of a person from college to college? When I go further down this rabbit hole, I start to think why should anyone be limited to four years of participation? maybe the answer is going to be a restriction in an NIL clause similar to a non compete etc.,

GetHooked said:

Parker was above average.

For two games. The rest of those stats scream average.

FutureInLaw said:

I keep trying to think of why it should be banned for logistical and practical purposes, but then the lawyer side of me is like why should you restrict the movement of a person from college to college? When I go further down this rabbit hole, I start to think why should anyone be limited to four years of participation? maybe the answer is going to be a restriction in an NIL clause similar to a non compete etc.,

My solution is, I think, pretty simple: you get unlimited transfers (up to eligibility limits), but after your first transfer NIL is no longer available. I expect you would see a lot less movement because for too many of these kids it isn't about getting more playing time but about more money.

HornsWin said:

My solution is, I think, pretty simple: you get unlimited transfers (up to eligibility limits), but after your first transfer NIL is no longer available. I expect you would see a lot less movement because for too many of these kids it isn't about getting more playing time but about more money.

Can’t restrict the market like that, but you could restrict revenue sharing from the schools? So only legitimate NIL. But then how do you enforce that? IMO make it a contractually based non compete that holds up. The real solution is some sort of collective bargaining agreement or players union.

EricNahlin said:

It’s too easy for players to repeatedly leave but hey that’s what people wanted.

Pretty sure people wanted players to get paid under a system where everyone abides by. So no, this is not what people wanted.

jtal1407 said:

For two games. The rest of those stats scream average.

I would like to have him still in burnt orange. There's more to it than stats.