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Wildbunch2Jan 09, 1:00 PM

Thinking out loud about the SEC postseason

The national media & even Paul Finebaum have been downing the SEC. The SEC got 5 teams in the CFP. 1 of the 5 was eliminated by another SEC team (Bama over OK) in the initial round. Another SEC team lost to an ACC team. In the quarterfinals 1 SEC team eliminated another (Ole Miss over UGA). Another lost to a Big 10 team IU over Bama). Ole Miss lost in the semifinals. In non-CFP bowl games by definition the best SEC team available was the 6th best team in the conference. #6 Texas beat B10 #4 Michigan. #7 Vandy lost to B10 #6 Iowa. #8 Mizzou lost to ACC #2 UVA. #9 Tennessee lost to B10 #7 ill. #10 LSU lost to B12 #4 Houston. #14 Miss St lost to ACC #8 WF. In all 6 non-CFP bowls the SEC team faced an opponent who fared 1 to 6 slots higher in their conference. That’s a far cry from apples to apples comparison. The pundits can’t even take the time to do minimal research. They just run w/ the skin deep story. It’s the SEC haters’ chance to stick in the knife. Just some food for thought.
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USC2USC

Jan 09, 1:07 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
The national media & even Paul Finebaum have been downing the SEC. The SEC got 5 teams in the CFP. 1 of the 5 was eliminated by another SEC team (Bama over OK) in the initial round. Another SEC team lost to an ACC team. In the quarterfinals 1 SEC team eliminated another (Ole Miss over UGA). Another lost to a Big 10 team IU over Bama). Ole Miss lost in the semifinals. In non-CFP bowl games by definition the best SEC team available was the 6th best team in the conference. #6 Texas beat B10 #4 Michigan. #7 Vandy lost to B10 #6 Iowa. #8 Mizzou lost to ACC #2 UVA. #9 Tennessee lost to B10 #7 ill. #10 LSU lost to B12 #4 Houston. #14 Miss St lost to ACC #8 WF. In all 6 non-CFP bowls the SEC team faced an opponent who fared 1 to 6 slots higher in their conference. That’s a far cry from apples to apples comparison. The pundits can’t even take the time to do minimal research. They just run w/ the skin deep story. It’s the SEC haters’ chance to stick in the knife. Just some food for thought.
Finebaum is a blow hard. He is just mad Alabama is down a bit. This was a great SEC football year.
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Rooster Louie

Jan 09, 1:10 PM

Not uncommon (back in the day) to see 6-5 SEC teams beating 8-3 or even 9-2 teams from lesser conferences. “The more things change, the more they seem to stay the same.” ”Every dawg has his day.” The portal, NIL has changed things for the SEC. (More emphasis was put on football roster building / paying players ”through the back door”, by the SEC. More so than some of these other conferences.) Now, everybody is paying players through the front door. But, the SEC isn’t falling apart in football. ”The SEC - It just means more.”
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Carolina Doc

Jan 09, 1:14 PM

It's no shame for the SEC to be down periodically. Other schools have good players, too.
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Wildbunch2

Jan 09, 1:30 PM

Rooster Louie said:
Not uncommon (back in the day) to see 6-5 SEC teams beating 8-3 or even 9-2 teams from lesser conferences. “The more things change, the more they seem to stay the same.” ”Every dawg has his day.” The portal, NIL has changed things for the SEC. (More emphasis was put on football roster building / paying players ”through the back door”, by the SEC. More so than some of these other conferences.) Now, everybody is paying players through the front door. But, the SEC isn’t falling apart in football. ”The SEC - It just means more.”
Most years the SEC overcomes playing better teams from other conferences. It didn’t happen this year. It happens like this periodically to the SEC. The next marker to watch is the NFL draft. If the SEC doesn’t dominate the draft, then concern grows.
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Rooster Louie

Jan 09, 1:31 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
Most years the SEC overcomes playing better teams from other conferences. It didn’t happen this year. It happens like this periodically to the SEC. The next marker to watch is the NFL draft. If the SEC doesn’t dominate the draft, then concern grows.
Very true. I failed to mention the talent that gets elevated to the next level.
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ReddFoxx1

Jan 09, 1:40 PM

We should be celebrating that the SEC isnt as deep and dominant in the NIL era, yet we go out of our way to defend the league. The goal for everyone on here is for SOURTH CAROLINA to to have a better chance to win We should not “pull” for the other 15 teams who we are in direct competion with Again. No other Fans of a league in the world does this.
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ReddFoxx1

Jan 09, 1:41 PM

Carolina Doc said:
It's no shame for the SEC to be down periodically. Other schools have good players, too.
Why on earth is it “shameful”? Its fantastic
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GamecockCPA11

Jan 09, 1:44 PM

ReddFoxx1 said:
We should be celebrating that the SEC isnt as deep and dominant in the NIL era, yet we go out of our way to defend the league. The goal for everyone on here is for SOURTH CAROLINA to to have a better chance to win We should not “pull” for the other 15 teams who we are in direct competion with Again. No other Fans of a league in the world does this.
It’s something I will never understand. The amount of people rooting for the rebels on here was crazy.
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Wildbunch2

Jan 09, 1:47 PM

I question whether it’s as down as the pundits would suggest. The B10 has stepped up their game in the NIL era. Bigger cities have bigger audiences, which leads to bigger marketing deals.
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ReddFoxx1

Jan 09, 1:48 PM

GamecockCPA11 said:
It’s something I will never understand. The amount of people rooting for the rebels on here was crazy.
Its a bizarre regional tribalism There are dozens of really ”good guys” on that Miami team. Cristobal is is pretty disciplined You dont beat Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Ohio State, and Ole Miss without being well coached and disciplined. Yet people call them “thugs” because of stuff that happened 30 years ago.
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Wildbunch2

Jan 09, 1:49 PM

Ole Miss hasn’t been nationally relevant since the 1950s. Do you think we have more recruiting battles w/ Ole Miss or UGA? How does the ascendancy of Miami help us recruit better?
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ReddFoxx1

Jan 09, 1:49 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
I question whether it’s as down as the pundits would suggest. The B10 has stepped up their game in the NIL era. Bigger cities have bigger audiences, which leads to bigger marketing deals.
If you just watch the games, the SEC isnt a deep a dominant league anymore. Its still very good, but the portal has evened the odds for these other schools. I said all year that the SEC was as deep as it’s been in awhile, but didnt have a GREAT team.
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Rooster Louie

Jan 09, 1:50 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
I question whether it’s as down as the pundits would suggest. The B10 has stepped up their game in the NIL era. Bigger cities have bigger audiences, which leads to bigger marketing deals.
Josh Pate used a pretty good analogy on “Get Up” this morning. ”The SEC once had a 97 MPH fastball, and now it has a 91 MPH fast ball.” (In context, the reason for the SEC slip up is because the talent has been spread out among other teams, instead of stockpiled on SEC teams.)
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Wildbunch2

Jan 09, 1:51 PM

Yeah, but we got the hotter chicks!
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ReddFoxx1

Jan 09, 1:51 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
Ole Miss hasn’t been nationally relevant since the 1950s. Do you think we have more recruiting battles w/ Ole Miss or UGA? How does the ascendancy of Miami help us recruit better?
It doesnt necessarily, but teams like Ole Miss benefit greatly by there run into the semifinals. They were able to keep Chambliss and Lacy. If they dont make it this far, who knows. Those two might be gone. Now LSU & Ole miss will be formidable as opposed to maybe just one of them.
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Trucheck

Jan 09, 1:56 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
Yeah, but we got the hotter chicks!
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Carolina Doc

Jan 09, 2:13 PM

ReddFoxx1 said:
Why on earth is it “shameful”? Its fantastic
That's what I said. No shame.
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jmcl24

Jan 09, 2:19 PM

I'm perfectly fine with the SEC being "down."
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Lomofan

Jan 09, 2:23 PM

ReddFoxx1 said:
We should be celebrating that the SEC isnt as deep and dominant in the NIL era, yet we go out of our way to defend the league. The goal for everyone on here is for SOURTH CAROLINA to to have a better chance to win We should not “pull” for the other 15 teams who we are in direct competion with Again. No other Fans of a league in the world does this.
Amen, AND the ACC needs to get better so Clemson doesn’t have a cakewalk schedule. They are cheering for Miami, the same team they play next year. Stupid.
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jmcl24

Jan 09, 2:26 PM

Rooster Louie said:
Josh Pate used a pretty good analogy on “Get Up” this morning. ”The SEC once had a 97 MPH fastball, and now it has a 91 MPH fast ball.” (In context, the reason for the SEC slip up is because the talent has been spread out among other teams, instead of stockpiled on SEC teams.)
Greg Sankey could murder a litter of puppies and Josh Pate would defend him.
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SnowdenCock

Jan 09, 2:27 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
Most years the SEC overcomes playing better teams from other conferences. It didn’t happen this year. It happens like this periodically to the SEC. The next marker to watch is the NFL draft. If the SEC doesn’t dominate the draft, then concern grows.
What would we be concerned about? Shouldn’t we be happy that the top of the SEC can’t stack as much talent? Our chances have never looked better.
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Rooster Louie

Jan 09, 2:30 PM

jmcl24 said:
Greg Sankey could murder a litter of puppies and Josh Pate would defend him.
How could Sankey fix ”all of this”?
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BTspur

Jan 09, 2:35 PM

The fact that cfb fans legitimately root for other teams in their own conference is one of the weirdest things about the sport. JMHO Can you imagine a Cowboys fan pulling for the Redskins, Eagles or Giants? Or a Braves fan pulling for the Mets or Phillies? Heck no! Why on earth would anyone pull for the teams that they compete against in everything?? Where I grew up, we didn't root for the teams in our division in high school athletics. We HATED the other teams in our region!
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Cocky Jeff

Jan 09, 2:37 PM

Wildbunch2 said:
Yeah, but we got the hotter chicks!
This.

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