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WWG
Dec 18, 1:17 PM
Jak8910 said:every game is now a referendum on his future. I hope he doesn't take it seriously (I doubt he has time for it). It’s exhausting to follow, though 🤣
Mase1717
Dec 18, 1:18 PM
Agreed, but pay it zero mind.
Andy Bernard
Dec 18, 1:23 PM
The question is - will this become a yearly thing? I cannot handle this every year.
The media are sowers of chaos.
PhenixCityBornandRaised
Dec 18, 1:26 PM
Once he wins a SEC or national title, then it will stop. This was expected after following The GOAT.
FuGeeLaw3224
Dec 18, 1:28 PM
I kinda think this particular take is valid. My view at this point in time is that making the playoff, winning a first round game, and playing well against Indiana would make the season a success. A resounding success? Maybe not to some. But a success nonetheless.
If (emphasis) Bama loses to Oklahoma, the ending to season will leave a bad taste in people’s mouth. And I imagine the narrative on the board—which probably would not be far off from that of boosters stuck in the Saban era—would reflect that. We can quibble whether that puts him on the hot seat and what “hot seat” means. But the temperature would turn up
rolltide1273
Dec 18, 1:32 PM
FuGeeLaw3224 said:that makes no sense. we’re offering an extension to the guy only to put him on the hot seat after one game? cmon manI kinda think this particular take is valid. My view at this point in time is that making the playoff, winning a first round game, and playing well against Indiana would make the season a success. A resounding success? Maybe not to some. But a success nonetheless. If (emphasis) Bama loses to Oklahoma, the ending to season will leave a bad taste in people’s mouth. And I imagine the narrative on the board—which probably would not be far off from that of boosters stuck in the Saban era—would reflect that. We can quibble whether that puts him on the hot seat and what “hot seat” means. But the temperature would turn up
rolltide1273
Dec 18, 1:33 PM
Jak8910 said:if ckd is influenced by media narratives as opposed to what his literal boss and boosters think, he was never gonna work out. i believe he’s not the weak and knows this just guys saying things for clicks.
Michaelvp32
Dec 18, 1:34 PM
Tom fornelli is a loser
lxgzn
Dec 18, 1:34 PM
FuGeeLaw3224 said:If anyone put him in the "hot seat" after a first round exit, in his 2nd year of coaching at the school, with half of a roster that isn't even his, they would be sorely mistaken. I certainly see what you're saying, but I doubt anyone credible or reasonable would start a narrative around him being in the hot seat. Sure we are used to a different standard of success, but given that we are towards the front end of a forever evolving NIL landscape and he has gotten us this far, hot seat would be foolish. No where near warm in my opinion.I kinda think this particular take is valid. My view at this point in time is that making the playoff, winning a first round game, and playing well against Indiana would make the season a success. A resounding success? Maybe not to some. But a success nonetheless. If (emphasis) Bama loses to Oklahoma, the ending to season will leave a bad taste in people’s mouth. And I imagine the narrative on the board—which probably would not be far off from that of boosters stuck in the Saban era—would reflect that. We can quibble whether that puts him on the hot seat and what “hot seat” means. But the temperature would turn up
Rtrhsv94
Dec 18, 1:34 PM
Hard to take this guy seriously when he says we’d be finishing 9-4.
Yermen
Dec 18, 1:35 PM
It took Ryan Day 6 years. Urban left a great situation without NIL, portal, etc. I think Debo will be given plenty of time.
JimmyStein
Dec 18, 1:36 PM
Apparently ... it's like this ... EVERYONE wants to hire him ... but he also sucks. That's the narrative. Okay.
Name
Dec 18, 1:39 PM
No different than some of our ignorant fans
OneTwoCanoe
Dec 18, 1:39 PM
Well fortunately for us, Greg Byrne is not a fool.
Boosters that talk to the media, message board posters, podcasters trying to pump up numbers, and crazy ladies in line for the lotto are not the ones making these decisions. Thank God.
FuGeeLaw3224
Dec 18, 1:40 PM
rolltide1273 said:I agree that it would irrational for decisions to be made off this one game. Think we’re on the same page there. And I don’t imagine anyone with authority (like Byrne) would do that. What I’m saying is that there would be a material difference in the narrative among fans, and likely some boosters, between Bama winning against OU and losing. The latter would be venturing into “hot seat” territory. Is that rational and level-headed? Not really. But when has someone accused any SEC fanbase and booster corps of being rational and sane.that makes no sense. we’re offering an extension to the guy only to put him on the gif seat after one game? cmon man
Mase1717
Dec 18, 1:41 PM
FuGeeLaw3224 said:I would like to believe the boosters and administration have some perspective on how special the Saban years were and would be for any program, and that the new expectations cannot be to replicate it to a tee. It's their money though not mine, but I haven't seen any indication that is the case other than national media members saying it who don't have a pulse on the program.I kinda think this particular take is valid. My view at this point in time is that making the playoff, winning a first round game, and playing well against Indiana would make the season a success. A resounding success? Maybe not to some. But a success nonetheless. If (emphasis) Bama loses to Oklahoma, the ending to season will leave a bad taste in people’s mouth. And I imagine the narrative on the board—which probably would not be far off from that of boosters stuck in the Saban era—would reflect that. We can quibble whether that puts him on the hot seat and what “hot seat” means. But the temperature would turn up
Zoom1996
Dec 18, 1:45 PM
Notice what networks have been pushing the Deboer hot seat talk. CBS & Fox (Klatt), no surprise that both these networks host 0 Sec games and primarily big 10 games.
OldBamaFam99
Dec 18, 1:46 PM
Whether he is or isn’t, the media doesn’t make that decision. Also, these guys aren’t privy to that decision either. So, this is basically two people who are completely unconnected to Alabama talking about something they know absolutely nothing about.
TJS816
Dec 18, 1:46 PM
You have to pay attention to WHO is saying this. It’s not a “media” narrative. It’s an “ignorant media” narrative. The most well thought of people in the sport (Herbstreit, Pate, Saban, Galloway, Klatt, etc) rave about him. If Fornelli and Damien Harris are saying it, that carries no weight.
o_Rolltide79
Dec 18, 1:46 PM
Wait now, I was reading an article that said if Alabama loses Friday it paves the way for DeBoer to Michigan. Well I see this is from CBS sports, the same people that gave us Gary Danielson.
Angryelf
Dec 18, 1:48 PM
Andy Bernard said:In all areas. Not just sports. The media sows dissension in a multitude of ways.The question is - will this become a yearly thing? I cannot handle this every year. The media are sowers of chaos.
Don_Juan_Pond
Dec 18, 1:51 PM
FuGeeLaw3224 said:Disagree. The realistic goal this year was to compete for an SEC Championship and make the playoffs. We made the SECCG as the #1 seed, whether or not we “competed” in that game is a topic for another day and we made the playoffs. I think I speak for most that the seat will be zero percent warm IF we lose to OU as the trajectory of the program is still heading in the right direction under CKD.I kinda think this particular take is valid. My view at this point in time is that making the playoff, winning a first round game, and playing well against Indiana would make the season a success. A resounding success? Maybe not to some. But a success nonetheless. If (emphasis) Bama loses to Oklahoma, the ending to season will leave a bad taste in people’s mouth. And I imagine the narrative on the board—which probably would not be far off from that of boosters stuck in the Saban era—would reflect that. We can quibble whether that puts him on the hot seat and what “hot seat” means. But the temperature would turn up
Mase1717
Dec 18, 1:52 PM
Angryelf said:In all areas. Not just sports. The media sows dissension in a multitude of ways.
Zoom1996 said:Notice what networks have been pushing the Deboer hot seat talk. CBS & Fox (Klatt), no surprise that both these networks host 0 Sec games and primarily big 10 games.
TJS816 said:I've been happy to see most on BOL understand these points, key word most lol.You have to pay attention to WHO is saying this. It’s not a “media” narrative. It’s an “ignorant media” narrative. The most well thought of people in the sport (Herbstreit, Pate, Saban, Galloway, Klatt, etc) rave about him. If Fornelli and Damien Harris are saying it, that carries no weight.
Angryelf
Dec 18, 1:53 PM
Mase1717 said:MOST for sure 😂I've been happy to see most on BOL understand these points, key word most lol.
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