2022 World Cup - General Discussion & Non-USA teams thread
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the World Cup balls (made by Adidas) do have chips in them (called Connected Ball Technology). It's supposed to help with offside calls and with goals (whether the ball passed the goal line).
I don't know too much about it, as that technology is not used in any other soccer competitions, including the Premier League.
I haven't seen a lot of details about how it works, so I can't speak to whether or not it could determine whether the ball had crossed the goal line outside of the goal area.
Actually I heard you and you didn't listen to my response or understand it. All of the professional athletes practice countless hours on their craft, but you didn't understand how it wasn't repeatable as often. It depends on the yards, the angle, wind....just like in golf little things can move the ball off quite a bit. If your plant foot as a kicker in football slips a little...it can lead to a missed EP....same thing in soccer, but then you are also trying to either get the ball up and down over a wall or bend it around it. You aren't just looking to get it on goal. You will see tons of direct kicks in every match as you said, but it's missed more often than not as you're trying to put he ball in a 2 foot by 2 foot space from 25+ yards out. Then most pro keepers tend to be 6-3 or taller so they also can cover some space so the accuracy has to be spot on along with the movement around a wall with a ton of pace. Almost all pros can put the ball into a 2x2 space in perfect conditions and no pace on the ball at all. The problem is trying to hit it hard enough and with enough accuracy to beat the keeper and hit that target.
Hopefully you understand what is being said and stop being so defensive now with me. Have a great night and hopefully this explanation helped. If not, my bad maybe someone else can explain it better.
Found this
yeah, I saw that. It's not a perfect picture in that it's from slightly upfield of the goal line, but it's the best one I've seen of the play in question.
The rule is that the entire ball, not just the part in contact with the field, must be over the line for the ball to be out of bounds. The AR is trained to look down the line (though the goal posts, and sometimes players and the goalie get in the AR's way), and doesn't raise the flag until they can see a gap between the ball and the line. The center ref has a more difficult view, as they're upfield from the line. They typically look for some distance between the part of the ball in contact with the field and the back of the line, and are also seeking verbal input from the AR (if miked up) or the flag being raised by the AR.
Based on the picture, where there is no gap between the edge of the ball and the end of the line, it looks as though the ball is not out of bounds. As it's not exactly along the goal line, we can't say for sure if the ball is or is not out of bounds.
I think you mean a crisp.
Muller: Germany WC exit 'absolute catastrophe'
Germany forward Thomas Muller called their World Cup exit an "absolute catastrophe," and manager Hansi Flick promised changes to the team soon.
www.espn.com
Muller has had such a great international career and shined heavily in the past at WC's. Sucks he's going out like this as he just always had a knack for putting the ball in the net for Germany in WC's. Feels like 20 years now he has been there.Muller: Germany WC exit 'absolute catastrophe'
Germany forward Thomas Muller called their World Cup exit an "absolute catastrophe," and manager Hansi Flick promised changes to the team soon.
Yeah, DeBruyne and Lukaku, too. It’s hard to go out like that.
Portugal-South Korea and Ghana-Uruguay at 10.
Portugal 6 pts 3 GD
Ghana 3 pts, 0 GD
South Korea 1 pt, -1 GD
Uruguay 1 pt, -2 GD.
Portugal is in. Ghana is win and in.
If Ghana draws: Ghana is in with a South Korea loss or draw. South Korea is in with a win, eliminated with a loss or draw. Uruguay is eliminated.
If Ghana loses: Ghana is eliminated. South Korea is eliminated with a loss or draw, Uruguay is in. If South Korea wins, then it comes down to GD to decide who goes; Uruguay needs to win by one more goal than South Korea does to even the GD.
Portugal 6 pts 3 GD
Ghana 3 pts, 0 GD
South Korea 1 pt, -1 GD
Uruguay 1 pt, -2 GD.
Portugal is in. Ghana is win and in.
If Ghana draws: Ghana is in with a South Korea loss or draw. South Korea is in with a win, eliminated with a loss or draw. Uruguay is eliminated.
If Ghana loses: Ghana is eliminated. South Korea is eliminated with a loss or draw, Uruguay is in. If South Korea wins, then it comes down to GD to decide who goes; Uruguay needs to win by one more goal than South Korea does to even the GD.
Just don't know who to pull for in that second spot. I love Cavani, but don't care for Chompers Suarez at all. Love Ghana and their coach but S. Korea has Son who is just so fun to watch play.
German soccer is going through a difficult period. This is now the second World Cup in a row in which they have failed to qualify for the knockouts. In the 2018–19 Nations League they finished last in their group, in last year's Euros they crashed out in the Round of 16, and currently in the Nations League they are in 3rd place out of the four teams in their group.
All of this mediocrity despite some amazing players and a fairly strong domestic league.
All of this mediocrity despite some amazing players and a fairly strong domestic league.
I’ll be watching Portugal-South Korea, hoping for a SK win.
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The last day of group stage, doesn’t get much better than this.
Though not always, in many instances I root for the non-European teams to qualify out of the groups. 1) I like the perceived underdogs, and 2) with the way world soccer is centered around Europe and UEFA, I like seeing European countries get humbled by the fact that the game is growing and becoming quite good elsewhere in the world.
Just my opinion, but Derek Rae is the best soccer commentator who lives in the United States. I wish Fox had him permanently signed as the commentator of USMNT games.
Terrible call in Ghana - Uruguay. Ghana takes a shot, but a Ghanan player is in an offside position and the ball goes through his legs. Offside is NOT called. The ball rebounds off the keeper, the keeper scampers to try to gather it, and there is a bang-bang play between him and a Ghanan attacker. They go to VAR, and call a foul on the GK. Fortunately for Uruguay, the GK stops the PK shot.
interesting. They just showed a replay, and the Ghanan played was not in an offside position, as an Uruguay defender was just a tad behind him. My bad.
Live table has Portugal and Uruguay advancing.
