The Hall had perhaps the worst 2 guard and PF in the league. Certainly at the bottom third. No one else is in the upper half of the league except for Clark. They could not a three point shot. I don’t want to bash the players but they played as a team far better than their individual talents.
Big East COY
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Not the official BE COY Award.
But possible foreshadowing nonetheless
But possible foreshadowing nonetheless
They played great defense which kept them in almost every game.
- Disruptive PG
- Two centers that provided a shot blocking presence
- Depth where all 10 in the rotation played very good team and swarming defense and they had fresher legs most games
AP named Shaheen Big East coach of the year. Sorry to disappoint some posters.
This is great news and good for him..been a tough road with nil
Does he get bonus for such awards? We should extend him on cheap now
If you’re going by this logic then he probably had the best big to come off the bench and Simpkins likely finished 2nd in 6th man of the year
He's done very good when the big east looks like a high level mid major getting 3 teams in the tournament. When the big east is fighting for 5 or 6 teams we've been mediocre and bad. You can only play who is on your schedule, but we play at the same level. When everyone is good we're in trouble and when they stink we take care of them.
I am very proud that he won this award. But no way this merits an extension.
A Seton Hall man won Big East Coach of the Year. That is a good thing and something --as Seton Hall people-- we should be proud of.
Yet we have so many people knocking it. Makes me scratch my head. Our own fans refusing to celebrate and congratulate and feeling the need to denigrate and diminish the achievement of winning 20 games with a marginally talented team that was picked to finish last in the league.
Yes, I am also bummed we've not made the tournament in four years, but can't we just celebrate and enjoy an award won by one of our own?
Yet we have so many people knocking it. Makes me scratch my head. Our own fans refusing to celebrate and congratulate and feeling the need to denigrate and diminish the achievement of winning 20 games with a marginally talented team that was picked to finish last in the league.
Yes, I am also bummed we've not made the tournament in four years, but can't we just celebrate and enjoy an award won by one of our own?
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I get it , but how is merit measured in this new NIL era? Not my money so who am I to dictate what he should and could get?
An extension without any NCAA appearances is --to me-- wrong.
I would negotiate for a higher rev share #.
Sj backup center is darned good. Good pist moves
First off, congrats to Sha!!! I might not think he deserves it but that doesn’t matter!
He got a raise and an extension after the NIT championship. Since then, he’s 12-28 in the Big East. If it’s because of weak NIL, even more reason not to extend and raise, need the funds for NIL.
If he runs away with the league, sure. If you have something like 16-4, 15-5, 14-6 at the top 3 places in the standings and there's a major overachiever in there, then I'd give it to the major overachiever who made the NCAA's. You didn't have that in the Big East this year. You had two teams that were head and shoulders above the others.
Pitino did such a good job that he (and Hurley) ran away with the league. But Rick got the last laugh so he gets the nod over Danny. The others didn't do enough to overcome that. You could make a case for Willard, but he went 0-4 vs. Pitino and Hurley. Not good enough to win the award.
100% spot on. Fans don't understand it because they're incredibly biased and fanatical - what fan is short for.
Seton Hall's selection as 11th in the preseason poll was ABSOLUTELY based on what happened last year. Not some teams in the rest of the poll, but for Seton Hall you can take it to the bank.
That post made me lol too. A coach who is even more selfish and arrogant than Willard won't use this to get more money for himself? LOLLLL!!!
I'm sure the bid to the crown tournament will be very satisfying for you and him. You going to Vegas? Huge tournament!
COY gets him a round of 
and nothing else, with all due respect.
and nothing else, with all due respect.If you asking if SHU fans are happy/proud, it’s certainly seems like a ‘no’ to quite a few. This has become a very strange place.
Yea that is what I meant it’s pretty clear the answer is no. Strange place indeed.
This is a nice accomplishment for the coach but It’s never a great year when the biggest accomplishment is an individual award in a team game.
for example no one is going to say the bigger accomplishment was IW as BET MVP over the team winning the championship itself.
If coaches vote pre-season rankings based on previous year than how do you explain Villanova being voted 3rd?
So start clapping dude.COY gets him a round of
Villanova wasn't voted third. But, as I said, not all the teams were placed based on their finish the previous year. Some are, some aren't. A lot of the top teams get put there because of who they brought in and their historical reputation. Rather, it's usually the teams towards the bottom who have a lot of uncertainty and, when in doubt, the measuring stick is the previous year's finish.
I don't believe Sha deserves an extension for this year,
but does deserve a big congrats and thank you for this season.
but does deserve a big congrats and thank you for this season.
Hard to get too excited about an individual coaching award when we went 10-10, didn’t beat any good BE teams, and won’t (absent a miracle BET run) be going to the NCAA tournament.
I appreciate Sha has faced some constraints with NIL—but he’s also had some self-inflicted wounds (and doesn’t have that excuse for the first couple seasons). And while I enjoy the passion this year’s version of the team plays with, Sha himself goes over the line at times (e.g., skipping radio interviews or lashing out), which can be tough to root for. (And I’m on record thinking guys like Danny Hurley are lunatics, too—not what I like to see on the sideline.)
A little, but it’s not overwhelming. It’s more an indictment of how horrendously poor he did last season that made him look better this year.
IMO, if we lose Thursday night this season goes from decent to disappointing and the COY award will mean very little.
The school has known for a while that he was voted Big East COY. I found out Monday morning, but had to be cautious in announcing what I knew.