So Zoom can’t shoot but Shelstad is legit. Compare their stats and get back to me. Shelstad was 39% from the floor last year. I’ll take Zoom 10-10 times over him. Montgomery was the 220th transfer last year and somehow he’s a good get over people we got? Take the Pope hating blinders off.
It lacks two go to star level players. We have a team of role players.
Agreed. Had we landed a couple studs earlier, people would be more happy about this. This guy would be the perfect piece that you wind down with to round out the roster. The timing of when you get certain dudes can change perception
Me too but if he's going to be relied upon man, we are in some **** trouble.
It is interesting timing Mcbride right before and Morton right after the Stokes decision. Does Pope think this somehow softens the blow?
Probably does think that. I have already moved on from Stokes though. He's a headcase.
I’ll say it for the 200th time ZERO ELITE scorers a bunch of role players worse team out of all of them
Yeah, the only chance is that these guys have a major chip on their shoulder and come together to play like a machine. Even then we’re still looking at 13-14 losses, we have no difference maker and the talent level in top half of the SEC far exceeds what we have. We need at least two elite play makers, not a team full just a couple of guys. It can’t be just all mid major dudes. This feels like a throw away year where Pope is just trying to make something happen
I respectfully, wholeheartedly disagree.
Crack the top 10? Da fuq?Gonna need a major leap from Moreno to crack the top 10 in all likelihood, barring a major signing.
I’m guessing we end up somewhere between Pope’s first season and this one, between 16 and 30. Kinda like where his BYU teams end up when they had a decent roster.
Regarding Morton, he played his best against the 5 best opponents on the schedule. His offensive rating was over 135, had a BPM of almost 9, and shot 60% from 3. So that might be encouraging!
The Iowa State team that spent most of the year between 5-10? Some of you people are total nutjobs. Nowhere close to Iowa St. who was FF capable but for the injury to their best player. Dude you're on crack
We'll take the Pope hating blinders off if you'll remove your head from his ***
Just a good old boys
I'm like you, not too down on the roster because Pope is trying to build a scoring team like year 1, however, he'd better hope this roster is better than year 1 or he won't get a year 4. The unknown about Hawthorne is something to think about, the kid was a top 35 player, he's got some moves if you watch his videos, I have no idea why Pope didn't play him? Weight maybe? Kam was also playing well before he got hurt. I know this much, none of our backcourt last year were creators, Diallo & Wilkins are.
Everything you said makes sense, last year's team were mostly 6th men, the squad so far, most of them were starters on their teams & not "role players". I have no idea how many games they'll win but maybe they surprise us like year 1?
Our best player is a freshman transferring from Furman. Second best is a sophomore from Washington. When that’s your two best players, your roster is trash. You’re gonna be severely disappointed if you think we have one of the best backcourts in the sec. The backcourt is the only good part of the roster and it’s middle of the SEC level.
Brea was being recruited by Duke and UConn, among others, so he was certainly on the NBA radar. A 6'7" guy who shoots ~50% from 3 will always be on the NBA radar. Robinson, I'm with you, and Amari -- I have no idea, but given he was known for defense and passing, I'd imagine he was on the radar. Not sure on him though.
Back to this again? I thought we established you do not actually need even one elite scorer to compete at a high level. By the definition of everyone who chimed in 15 ppg is not elite and we won the National Championship when our leading scorer was 14.2 ppg.
Paul you are an institution of support and we know this. You use AD as your reference a talent we hadn’t seen in years. We can revisit this next year. Please be ready Pope isn’t him I wanted him finish the assignment but he isn’t it.
What argument are you actually trying to make here? Is it that 14.2 ppg is an elite scorer but only if it was Davis? What exactly are we supposed to revisit? I'm not making any predictions or claims. I'm just saying there have been plenty of teams have successful seasons without a 20 ppg scorer.
You can’t compare ANTHONY DAVIS to ANY of these players or ANY 2012 Player from that team. I never said they should average 20.
Dude we all wanted Pope to be the it factor he’s not it’s time to move on
Where are you getting that I compared any of these guys to Davis? Would you be able to deal with this better if Lamb had been leading scorer? It is not about player comparison it is about our ability to score.
For the love of god you are so clueless you hsve brought up AD stats in everything with elite scoring
Just admit pope was wrong we hoped. He was it but he’s not that’s why you stayed away from the WHIFF posts
Pope is all but guaranteed to be coaching our team this upcoming season. Many of you wanted him fired and it didn't happen so now it's time to accept that and get behind hoping he succeeds this year. If things don't go much better he may well be gone next year. I have said many times on here now if that is how it plays out I won't be whining like so many constantly do now. I will get on board with backing our next coach. I'm not so much attached to Pope as I am to backing whoever our coach is but I don't think a revolving door situation is something we want to get into barring extreme circumstances.
