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Wait. So he was fired for a reaction to a racist picture?

He hadn’t read the script and was probably truly caught off guard.

If any thing the station is more responsible than he is for not vetting the BBC dj.

The anchorman laughed and made a comment probably out of pure nervousness; he then realized how that probably came across and sincerely apologized.

People suck now a days. They make snap judgments and sadly stick with them.

He shouldn’t have been fired. He should have been reprimanded and potentially suspended.

Now he has to find a new job and potentially a new career. Because of an off guard reaction. Glad there are so many perfect and well-tempered. Riiiight....
 
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bbncal02 said:
Wait. So he was fired for a reaction to a racist picture?

He hadn’t read the script and was probably truly caught off guard.

If any thing the station is more responsible than he is for not vetting the BBC dj.

The anchorman laughed and made a comment probably out of pure nervousness; he then realized how that probably came across and sincerely apologized.

People suck now a days. They make snap judgments and sadly stick with them.

He shouldn’t have been fired. He should have been reprimanded and potentially suspended.

Now he has to find a new job and potentially a new career. Because of an off guard reaction. Glad there are so many perfect and well-tempered. Riiiight....
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Every show like that has show prep. They dont just throw crap at you. He had to at least know what the picture was and he most definitely had to know the baby of the royal family was bi-racial. I don't think it is too hard to expect a man with 30 years of experience to have the awareness to not condone, support or give the illusion that calling anyone of African descent a monkey is ok or reference the guy who did as "your favorite DJ".


The same people on here attempting to exonerate Lee Cruise from ANY wrongdoing are the same ones who are so quick to convict unarmed black men of wrongdoing in attempt to justify excessive force and the shooting of unarmed black men gunned down in cold blood. It is wildly inconsistent, yet predictable af.
 
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Every show like that has show prep. They dont just throw crap at you. He had to at least know what the picture was and he most definitely had to know the baby of the royal family was bi-racial. I don't think it is too hard to expect a man with 30 years of experience to have the awareness to not condone, support or give the illusion that calling anyone of African descent a monkey is ok or reference the guy who did as "your favorite DJ".


The same people on here attempting to exonerate Lee Cruise from ANY wrongdoing are the same ones who are so quick to convict unarmed black men of wrongdoing in attempt to justify excessive force and the shooting of unarmed black men gunned down in cold blood. It is wildly inconsistent
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Doesn't surprise me the French didn't put any warheads on it...

 
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Racism upsets me as much as anyone, but him losing his job over a moment of weakness/reaction in which he quickly apologized sincerely for, is a bit much.

Suspend him, but fire him? Come on. He didn't react appropriately to a story in which he wasn't even involved in.

And I do agree he didn't react appropriately. Not about society being "soft" or whatever. He did indeed screw up and should have apologized, which he did, and I did believe the apology.

The repercussions in this case were just too much IMO.
 
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BigBlueSean said:
Every show like that has show prep. They dont just throw crap at you. He had to at least know what the picture was and he most definitely had to know the baby of the royal family was bi-racial. I don't think it is too hard to expect a man with 30 years of experience to have the awareness to not condone, support or give the illusion that calling anyone of African descent a monkey is ok or reference the guy who did as "your favorite DJ".


The same people on here attempting to exonerate Lee Cruise from ANY wrongdoing are the same ones who are so quick to convict unarmed black men of wrongdoing in attempt to justify excessive force and the shooting of unarmed black men gunned down in cold blood. It is wildly inconsistent, yet predictable af.
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He’s human. I’ve seen people 25 into their careers make mistakes. It happens. I’m not going to defend him. But I won’t overly condemn him either. People truly do make mistakes. And since I don’t know him personally? I can’t really state his motives.

Now as far as your second paragraph is concerned, that’s kind of a haphazard correlation. Regardless, I think I can condemn such actions and still think this guy is not a racist.
 
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bbncal02 said:
He’s human. I’ve seen people 25 into their careers make mistakes. It happens. I’m not going to defend him. But I won’t overly condemn him either. People truly do make mistakes. And since I don’t know him personally? I can’t really state his motives.

Now as far as your second paragraph is concerned, that’s kind of a haphazard correlation. Regardless, I think I can condemn such actions and still think this guy is not a racist.
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Where did I say Lee Cruise is a racist? Also, the 2nd paragraph isnt a haphazard correlation... its an inconvenient one.

For the 3rd time, he should have solely been suspended. When I was 21 i got suspended at a job for doing something stupid. Sure I apologized and my employer forgave me.... but I still had to serve the suspension.
 
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Where did I say Lee Cruise is a racist? Also, the 2nd paragraph isnt a haphazard correlation... its an inconvenient one.

For the 3rd time, he should have solely been suspended. When I was 21 i got suspended at a job for doing something stupid. Sure I apologized and my employer forgave me.... but I still had to serve the suspension.
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And he served it and to save face they axed a man 30 years into his career. When the real wrongdoer is the producer who didn’t vet this DJ whom, as I’ve seen, was kind of known for this behavior. I mean. Private organization- they can fire him because they hate his tie. Free market and such.

And what I meant was that’s kind of a loose correlation. Just because some people don’t think Lee was wrong doesn’t mean they are the same kind of people that condone shooting unarmed black people. That’s a bit of a jump.
 
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Racism upsets me as much as anyone, but him losing his job over a moment of weakness/reaction in which he quickly apologized sincerely for, is a bit much.

Suspend him, but fire him? Come on. He didn't react appropriately to a story in which he wasn't even involved in.

And I do agree he didn't react appropriately. Not about society being "soft" or whatever. He did indeed screw up and should have apologized, which he did, and I did believe the apology.

The repercussions in this case were just too much IMO.
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Depends on what it was costing WLEX. I tend to agree a suspension was fine---- but if what my best friend, who is a producer at WLEX for multiple shows stated was true, that they had advertisers cramming the phone lines threatening to withdrawal their ads, then it is what it is. When business have their bottom line effected it changes things. Is it fair? No. But its the reality of the situation.
 
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BigBlueSean said:
Depends on what it was costing WLEX. I tend to agree a suspension was fine---- but if what my best friend, who is a producer at WLEX for multiple shows stated was true, that they had advertisers cramming the phone lines threatening to withdrawal their ads, then it is what it is. When business have their bottom line effected it changes things. Is it fair? No. But its the reality of the situation.
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Yeah. Business is business, but I would be curious to see just what kind of impact it was truly having.

I mean, he screwed up, but I, for one, don't think his actions were so egregious and appalling given the subject matter and situation, that it should have warranted some sort of massive advertiser reaction.

Would be interesting to see the numbers.
 
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Barely watch news, but WKYT is the OG. May be boring as hell, but Sam Dick looks like he'd help you shovel your driveway in the winter. Kevin Christopher looks like he'd volunteer to give your wife tennis lessons at the club.

Too much snake oil flowing over at 18 for my taste. Plus, Bill Bryant sounds like Foghorn Leghorn and that's just cool
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Bill Bryant used to go to my gym..super nice guy..only did one exercise. Shoulder shrugs.
 
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Are the cats recruiting a b-ball player that goes by the nickname "young ape"?? if so are we allowed to say that??
 
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YouKay said:
Uh.....he is 1/4 black. Megan Markle's mother is black. Pretty much everyone knows this. You just have to stay away from ape/monkey jokes in this situation. Everyone in TV knows this too.
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I dont even know who Megan Markle is lol. If a baby looks like a monkey who cares monkeys are cute. Bet if the baby was white and he said man that baby looks like a albino monkey he would still have a job.
 
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Because we live in a society of judgmental “must be PC” all the time people. I’ve thought about changing my registration back to Rep for years because I miss voting in the primaries. You know why I’m not going to do it? Because when you say you’re a D or an R you get immeasurable and immediately labeled these days. Say you are an R? “Woman hater! Science denier! RACIST Bootlicker!” Say you are a D? “Hippie! Godless heathen! BABY KILLER!” And it sticks. People shun you and throw away the key, the bath water, and count chickens.

Nobody’s perfect. No company is perfect. Nothing in the fallen universe is perfect.

I get a good laugh when I see my overly conservative friends freak out because I eat Ben and Jerry’s. “How DARE YOU!?” is the look I get. I don’t care about their politics or the fact they are gay. I could not care less. I buy/eat their ice cream because it’s dang good ice cream. Of course I get the same looks from my liberal friends when I say I’m pro-gun. “How DARE you?!”

Point being is when boycotts start swaying every decision and setting policy as gospel truth? We’re going to be always disappointed and down to nothing for business. And eventually, I hope, people will return to their damn senses and grow up. Talk things out like an adult.

It’s cases like these where I just roll my eyes.
Guy now is out on his backside due to one incident. If I fired every employee under my watch for one incident (that isn’t murder, assault, or willful/sincere discrimination) I’d be out of employees and word would spread where no one would want to work for us.

It’s all about sincerity. Something severely lacking in today’s society made up of hollow, vain, people that are only interested in appearance and lip service.
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You need to stay a Democrat. :)
 
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Scripps and WLEX can kill themselves by diving into wood chipper and .smoke a turd while burning in Hell as they get anally raped by rabid wolverines. Dickless, spineless shitheads.

Boycott the **** out of those ********
 
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I know Lee Cruse and consider him a really good guy. Far from a racist and a big heart. That said, this isn't a "PC" issue. He made light of a photo depicting a black child as a monkey. I believe him when he says it was an error made unwittingly, and most of us have probably done something similar in the past without paying a harsh price. I feel like a strong suspension would have been the better way to go, but I don't think people should be writing this off as "political correctness." WLEX is a business based on the public trust. It had to do something.
 
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What was MJ’s take? I imagine it was very PC and empty-suitish.


WLEX did do something, then they did something extra that will certainly not help their business.

White people are the worst. Lexington NAACP wasn’t even calling for his head.
 
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Jeff Drummond said:
I know Lee Cruse and consider him a really good guy. Far from a racist and a big heart. That said, this isn't a "PC" issue. He made light of a photo depicting a black child as a monkey. I believe him when he says it was an error made unwittingly, and most of us have probably done something similar in the past without paying a harsh price. I feel like a strong suspension would have been the better way to go, but I don't think people should be writing this off as "political correctness." WLEX is a business based on the public trust. It had to do something.
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Good. Market forces and what not—hope other businesses pull their ads.
 
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Glenn's take said:
Can I just say one thing that I think is bigger than his comments. Any American that knows anything or cares at all about British royalty is a complete idiot. British people that care about their own royalty are idiots but Americans are complete idiots. And I do mean it personally.
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The royals need to go the way of the dodo.
 
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It will be turned now to say that anyone that supports his apology is racist and that just shows the white privilege of this country, and something about 100 years ago, vaudeville...something something.

You can't win on these issues. A suspension was warranted, etc...but theres no reasoning on logic on anything
 
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Jeff Drummond said:
I know Lee Cruse and consider him a really good guy. Far from a racist and a big heart. That said, this isn't a "PC" issue. He made light of a photo depicting a black child as a monkey. I believe him when he says it was an error made unwittingly, and most of us have probably done something similar in the past without paying a harsh price. I feel like a strong suspension would have been the better way to go, but I don't think people should be writing this off as "political correctness." WLEX is a business based on the public trust. It had to do something.
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I don’t think many, if anyone, are arguing that they didn’t have to do anything. They did. People are saying that it’s really dumb that they went as far as to fire him. Wildly disproportionate punishment compared to what he actually did and how he owned up to it.

Political correctness may not be the right word, but outrage culture is. If you make a mistake these days in the public sphere, best believe social media will make it hurt as badly as possible.
 
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I mean seriously though. I haven't seen the news or seen any pics. Does the baby look like a damn monkey or not?
 
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To me this is like lack of institutional control for a ball coach. Cruse should have known what he is commenting on...because he didn't and instead said something insensitive and stupid that he probably wouldn't have otherwise said, he should have been fired. Fired for ignorance, not for racism.

That said, our world is way too freaking sensitive now and people don't have respect for one another or their differences- this is all races. There are racists on both sides of the fence...
 
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