OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread
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I don't understand this article at all. $308M in total revenue isn't even enough to cover player salaries. Yet it claims the Mets made $195M in net income? Oh well, not my problem.
Matt Allan, the ace who never was, has declared free agency. If he ever gets healthy and reaches his potential, it won't be with the Mets. Sad.
He didn't declare anything. The system names him a FA. There isn't anyone in history who had as many injuries as he had and pitched in the majors. I'm not even sure he'll try to pitch ever again after the new one last year.
The SNY article I saw said he "elected" free agency, as did several other players.
I think this is accurate. Pretty sure that if you are a seven year minor league veteran, and not on the 40 man, you can elect free agency. Matt Allan would meet this definition, as he made his debut in 2019.
Matt Allan, Bryce Montes de Oca headline Mets minor leaguers to elect free agency
The Mets had a number of minor league players elect to hit the open market on Friday, and most notable of the group are right-handers Matt Allan and Bryce Montes de Oca.
I stand corrected but I couldn't name one player who hasn't beena FA in this case even if they end up returning.The SNY article I saw said he "elected" free agency, as did several other players.
I think this is accurate. Pretty sure that if you are a seven year minor league veteran, and not on the 40 man, you can elect free agency. Matt Allan would meet this definition, as he made his debut in 2019.
Matt Allan, Bryce Montes de Oca headline Mets minor leaguers to elect free agency
The Mets had a number of minor league players elect to hit the open market on Friday, and most notable of the group are right-handers Matt Allan and Bryce Montes de Oca.sny.tv
I have seen a bunch of revenue numbers thrown around for baseball franchises and not a single one of them make any sense at all. That number looks to be just ticket sales. We averaged somewhere around 35k per game and if the average ticket is just over $100 - then it adds up to that number. They are not figuring in the TV and radio rights, merchandizing, food, drink, etc...For a team like the Met's most likely another $200+ mil or so.
As we get into the GM meetings- I was thinking about Alonso again- he made $27 mil last year...So, for the Met's, he really only adds another 2-3 mil per year while any other team is raising their payroll significantly if they sign him...We are also dropping Marte's contract. Same goes for Diaz - we are only raising our payrole by 1-3 mil while it is much larger for anyone else signing him. And as much as anyone wants to talk about Pete's defense- I believe he may have had 10 errors but he also had the most putouts. He is not above average at 1B but his bat certainly outweighs his defense. And exactly who would improve this team if they replace Pete??? Even if you told me his $30 mil could get a number 3 SP and a good fielding 1B - does that improve the team?
Alonso made $30M last year. His contract was 2/$54M but it was front-loaded. He opted out of receiving $24M in 2026, as everyone knew he would.
Which strengthens your argument, I think.
Agree- the crazy thing is- I think Cohen is business savvy enough to also look at the money Pete brings in. Our attendance did not jump up so much because of Soto but because of Lindor/Soto/ Alonso and those 3 guys play every game. In the next 3-4 years when all three should still be very good- the money that trio brings in is bigger than saving 15 mil a year to go cheap.
I love Pete but at the end of the day I like the team winning more. If Stearns thinks he can field a better overall team and Pete walks because of it then so be it even though I prefer him back. There is one ultimate goal for the franchise that has been alluding it for going on 39 years now and to me that's all that matters.
The first free agent domino has fallen. 1B Josh Naylor has re-signed with Seattle. Five years. Financial terms not announced yet.
This will be a floor for the Alonso contract.
This will be a floor for the Alonso contract.
In 5 years I hate to see how large Naylor’s belly becomes !
He is a very good player but he needs to take better care of himself physically!
He is a very good player but he needs to take better care of himself physically!
This article states that the Mets drew over 3 million in attendance last year. The Mets were the first NY team to ever do that, in I think 1987.
I love Citi Field, but I didn't like its significant drop in attendance capacity from Shea, only because I knew that a successful Mets team could easily draw over 4 million, like the Dodger did this year and the Yankees did back in the Jeter days. Ah, well. The Mets can still become the most popular team in town, like they had been for many years in the past. They were on their way there until whatever the heck happened in the last two months of the season. I expect the ship to be righted, however,
It's funny, Yankee fans hate to admit this but when the Met's have really good and exciting teams- they really do create a bigger buzz around the city then when the Yankees are good. Even during the Jeter years- the Yankees drew like crazy but it just never felt like it was a team taking over the city- Those 80's Met teams - the city was just on fire with Met's buzz.
We find a way to get back to the fun and success the 80's team brought, and it will be so much fun again.
They are reporting 5 years and between 90-100 mil. Hard to gauge how this sets a number for Pete as Naylor may be a good player, he just isn't in the same conversation as Alonso.
Actually he was very much in the conversation, but as Plan B.
If he did accept an AAV south of $20M, I would say there is a home town discount. (Actually, adopted home town, but whatever.) Not good news for Boras/Alonso. Maybe not bad, but certainly not good
Yes, in that conversation...not in the conversation as a hitter and reliability.
Tier A for 1B are Vlad, Freemen, Alonso, Harper, Olson - the next tier are a couple of guys that had strong years but it was either their best year ever or they are only a couple of years into their career. Naylor fits into the best year of his career and guys like Bush, are still too early.
But if Naylor signed for under $20 per year, that is surprising...That seems very low. I still think Pete gets in the $28 mil per year range if he goes 5 years and maybe $30 mil if he goes 3 years.
He is younger but has had previous injury issues. He is also not all that close as a hitter. He is a good player but his best career year would be a bad year for Pete.
hard to compare. It is like comping a a 3 BR house to a 5BR house if both were in great condition. Plus, NYC is a place that even great players couldn’t handle
I think your estimate of 5/$140M ($28M AAV) seems right. I think somebody will offer him that. I am not optimistic that it will be the Mets.
You may recall that prior to the 2024 season, the Mets tried to lock up Alonso long term. They reportedly offered 7/$158.5M, which he declined. At the time I thought Alonso might come to regret that decision. I was wrong. He won't.
Over the last two years, Alonso made $50.5M. Therefore, in order for him to match the offer he turned down, he'd need 5/$108M.
He will do much better than that.
Over the last two years, Alonso made $50.5M. Therefore, in order for him to match the offer he turned down, he'd need 5/$108M.
He will do much better than that.
The deadline to add Rule 5 eligible players to the 40 man is today at 6 PM. Nick Morabito is the most intriguing and I believe another team might try and pick him up so hope he gets added. Saul Garcia and Douglas Orellana are the other names to monitor today.
Sounds like it will be a Frankie Montas DFA for the Morabito add.
That one was a no-brainer. He is out for the season, and you gotta pay him anyway, but no point in having him take a spot on the off-season 40 man.
For Alonso fans- Naylor signing May actually be a really good thing. It seems he may have been the primary plan B option if they can’t get a deal done with Pete.
With him off the market, is there really a better option?
I can’t see a path to the playoffs without Alonso. Maybe if the get one of the B’s from the RedSox or Yankees
Edwin Diaz declined his QO as expected. If he signs elsewhere, the Mets will get draft compensation, unless they forfeit it by themselves signing a free agent who received the QO.
Four players accepted their QO and are off the market: Trent Grisham, Gleyber Torres, Shota Imagana, and Brandon Woodruff. A bit surprised about Grisham.
Four players accepted their QO and are off the market: Trent Grisham, Gleyber Torres, Shota Imagana, and Brandon Woodruff. A bit surprised about Grisham.
For some reason, I am starting to feel the Mets are only going to go half hearted for Pete. I don’t think think Diaz comes back though.
The shame is- if the Mets even just match any other deal offered to Pete, I think he would come back.
I don’t know what the plan is but I just can’t see how we become a better team without Alonso with the next couple of years being the last of Lindors prime and a long term commitment from Soto.
The shame is- if the Mets even just match any other deal offered to Pete, I think he would come back.
I don’t know what the plan is but I just can’t see how we become a better team without Alonso with the next couple of years being the last of Lindors prime and a long term commitment from Soto.
SNY was reporting last night that Nimmo / McNeil / Acuna / Vientos and possibly Baty all available for trade. .