OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread

BigEastPhil

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They just read the headlines and dont even bother with the details.
It was a joke. See the moji. Lol

We’re all frustrated but I’m trying to keep an open mind on future moves.

Garcia however at 1 year $10mil is a steal and a Stearns type of deal but with Polanco / Vientos at DH and a LF / OF being acquired shortly…..,mmmm


Pitchers and Catchers report in about 2 months.

Tick…tick….tick
 

yesrutgers01

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It was a joke. See the moji. Lol

We’re all frustrated but I’m trying to keep an open mind on future moves.

Garcia however at 1 year $10mil is a steal and a Stearns type of deal but with Polanco / Vientos at DH and a LF / OF being acquired shortly…..,mmmm


Pitchers and Catchers report in about 2 months.

Tick…tick….tick
Ok- then when does a Net positive run prevention 1B show up?
 
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yesrutgers01

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I don’t hate tge pickup and if he and Williams get back to form- solid pen.

slso- just so strange how Stearns really does go for ex Yankee players. Once or twice, just a fluke but this often, very strange.
 
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Stearns is gobbling up all the pennies and leaving the dollars for everyone else. Any trades for a quality player is going to be a big hit to the farm system. Opposing team know the Mets are in a difficult position if they expect to field a competitive team. They can play hardball with the Mets.
 

Kbe4

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LOL! Picking up all the former Yankees winners. He completely s the bed at the end of last season when he was needed most.
I actually was hoping the Yanks would resign Weaver. He had a lot of excellent outings for the team and I thought they would possibly give him another shot in 2026.
 

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I actually was hoping the Yanks would resign Weaver. He had a lot of excellent outings for the team and I thought they would possibly give him another shot in 2026.
Unless he was pitching hurt, his end of year collapse was unforgiveable.
 

Kbe4

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Unless he was pitching hurt, his end of year collapse was unforgiveable.
I could see why he signed with the Mets for two years at $22 million.
I don't know why he started to suck the back half of last year. If it was an injury, tipping his pitches, or lack of confidence.
 
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RutgersNJ

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Just for fun, here's a look at where the Mets 26 man Opening day roster might stand right now. It assumes that none of the rookie position players are ready yet. It also assumes this is the roster we are going to battle with, which of course it is not.

STARTING LINEUP (9)
Lindor SS
Semien 2B
Soto RF
Vientos DH
Polanco 1B
McNeil LF
Alvarez C
Baty 3B
Taylor CF

BENCH (4)
Torrens
Mauricio
Acuna
Bae or Young

STARTING PITCHING (6)
Senga
Peterson
McLean
Holmes
Manaea
Sproat OR Tong OR Scott

RELIEF PITCHING (7)
WIlliams
Raley
Minter (if he's ready)
Brazoban
?
??
???

This roster ain't winning anything, but I've seen worse in orange and blue.
88 win team
 
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It’s almost Christmas
I’ll go anti- negative Met thought and say Benge will start from day 1 . Mets got this one right and kid comes in and makes us forget PCA. Not as much power but more contact and a solid rookie season. Comes in 3rd for ROY behind ROY winner McLean !
 

yesrutgers01

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F*ck no, not again!!! If I'm Mets management, I find a way to say no. https://metsmerizedonline.com/clay-holmes-nolan-mclean-join-team-usa-for-wbc/
Why would a player like McLean even play- he does not have a huge guaranteed contract with the Met's. He gets hurt and his career could be down the drain. I don't like Lindor, Holmes or Soto playing either but as a player- it makes more sense for them. If they get hurt- they are all super rich and have money still sitting in their pockets, injured or not.
 

willisneverrana43

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88 win team
As I see it, it's worthless to project results right now because this is a 40 man roster still under development. On top of that, I'm guessing (and, yes, just a guess) that Stearns is considering for next year elevating a number of young players to the opening day roster. I'd also bet that he's willing to trade some of them in the right deal. Too early.
 

RutgersNJ

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Why would a player like McLean even play- he does not have a huge guaranteed contract with the Met's. He gets hurt and his career could be down the drain. I don't like Lindor, Holmes or Soto playing either but as a player- it makes more sense for them. If they get hurt- they are all super rich and have money still sitting in their pockets, injured or not.
Exactly
 
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If money isn't a problem:

What if the Mets didn't trade for Semien (kept Nimmo), and instead signed Polanco, Alonso, Diaz, and maybe Williams? Williams is not a must. He's a bonus pickup.
Maybe it's easier to sign King and/or trade for an ace like Skubal?
 

yesrutgers01

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If money isn't a problem:

What if the Mets didn't trade for Semien (kept Nimmo), and instead signed Polanco, Alonso, Diaz, and maybe Williams? Williams is not a must. He's a bonus pickup.
Maybe it's easier to sign King and/or trade for an ace like Skubal?
And the other thing- Mets have gotten older with these moves too.
why are so many - in Stearns we trust.
he has not made a single good move for the Mets
 

Zak57

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And the other thing- Mets have gotten older with these moves too.
why are so many - in Stearns we trust.
he has not made a single good move for the Mets
Are you being hyperbolic or really think he hasn't made one good move? Not one good move in two years...
 
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yesrutgers01

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Manaea, Severino, Iglesias, Rogers, G. Soto, Holmes, Minter, Raley in quick thought.

How many of those moves lasted more than 1 season?
Beat me to it. Holmes does seem solid. But Roger’s and Soto? Rentals and gave up depth with our prospects. Minter, Raley- need more body of work.
But imagine- Holmes, Minter and Raley as a claim to fame.
And do those outweigh Monta$$$, Manaea part 2, Mullen, Siri,

Zak- it is a hard pull to try to even feel half good about Stearns body of work so far.
 

Zak57

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Beat me to it. Holmes does seem solid. But Roger’s and Soto? Rentals and gave up depth with our prospects. Minter, Raley- need more body of work.
But imagine- Holmes, Minter and Raley as a claim to fame.
And do those outweigh Monta$$$, Manaea part 2, Mullen, Siri,

Zak- it is a hard pull to try to even feel half good about Stearns body of work so far.
Ok so you changed the argument. You said not one good move. Now it's a good move more than one year. Let's see as we continue to move through the winter.
 
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yesrutgers01

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Ok so you changed the argument. You said not one good move. Now it's a good move more than one year. Let's see as we continue to move through the winter.
Dude- even coach Ash had at least one good move. That is so weak on your part. His body of work with the Met's suck.

they guys he just casted off- 3 guys very respected in the player community, seem to have not much good to say about him.

I also believe that his play this year are doing the type of moves he has done, and "hoping" a couple of the big names fall into a Alonso situation. And if that happens- let's hope they bring a WS because he will play games with them as well, even if they have huge years.

I have not seen a single good thing said about Stearns in NY except- "he must have a plan"
 

yesrutgers01

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Dude- even coach Ash had at least one good move. That is so weak on your part. His body of work with the Met's suck.

they guys he just casted off- 3 guys very respected in the player community, seem to have not much good to say about him.

I also believe that his play this year are doing the type of moves he has done, and "hoping" a couple of the big names fall into a Alonso situation. And if that happens- let's hope they bring a WS because he will play games with them as well, even if they have huge years.

I have not seen a single good thing said about Stearns in NY except- "he must have a plan"
BTW- I really do want to win and obviously, we have been doing it the wrong way. But to try to convince anyone, at this point, that Stearns is going to make that happen, is almost impossible.
I am open to give him this year to make me watch this team. Last year- the team drew records, not because of Soto, not because of Lindor, not because of Pete in the lineup - it was the fun of having all 3. Take away any one of the 3 from last year's team, and we are worse and we also do not draw as well as we did. The Alonso move can be sort of, almost argued as a baseball move but can't be argued as a business move. He will be making Balt big bucks this year instead of us
 
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willisneverrana43

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This board gets as reactionary as Sports radio, just chock full of folks who not only need to have opinions but need them to be extreme and right away.

The Milwaukee Brewers hovered below or just above .500 for four years before Stearns arrived. They won 68 game the year before. Then 73, then 86, then 96, 89, (skipping Covid), 95, 86, 92. 3 first place finishes. 3 second place finishes. In the smallest or close to smallest market in the league.

But now he sucks. 26 months in, he's terrible. His lengthy history doesn't matter. He's terrible. For a host of concocted reasons, he's terrible. He can only do it in small markets. Terrible. Signs Sosa, but not Pete and Diaz. Terrible. He's not cut out for the big city. Terrible. What's this run prevention nonsense. Terrible.

I don't know anything near enough to successfully run an MLB front office. But one thing I do know is that the moment that a GM starts making moves that coincide with suggestions and preferences of those on message boards, sports radio, or local TV sports shows, is the moment that I know we have a bad front office.

I'll rely on the history.
 

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This board gets as reactionary as Sports radio, just chock full of folks who not only need to have opinions but need them to be extreme and right away.

The Milwaukee Brewers hovered below or just above .500 for four years before Stearns arrived. They won 68 game the year before. Then 73, then 86, then 96, 89, (skipping Covid), 95, 86, 92. 3 first place finishes. 3 second place finishes. In the smallest or close to smallest market in the league.

But now he sucks. 26 months in, he's terrible. His lengthy history doesn't matter. He's terrible. For a host of concocted reasons, he's terrible. He can only do it in small markets. Terrible. Signs Sosa, but not Pete and Diaz. Terrible. He's not cut out for the big city. Terrible. What's this run prevention nonsense. Terrible.

I don't know anything near enough to successfully run an MLB front office. But one thing I do know is that the moment that a GM starts making moves that coincide with suggestions and preferences of those on message boards, sports radio, or local TV sports shows, is the moment that I know we have a bad front office.

I'll rely on the history.
He made such awful moves at the trade deadline! I suppose those don't count!
 
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Toddwills00

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So, let me get this straight if a player was good but only signed for a year it doesn't count but if a player was bad and also only signed or played for less than a year that counts as a bad move?

The moves at the break didn't work how many at the time the deals were made said the trades were awful? Its baseball, sometimes players don't perform if I recall Helsey, and Mullins were decent about until that point. Year 1 good, Year 2 bad. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. I think he still gets 2 more years at least, Cohen didn't wait 3 years for Stearns to become available just to fire him at the first sign of adversity.
 

Zak57

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Dude- even coach Ash had at least one good move. That is so weak on your part. His body of work with the Met's suck.

they guys he just casted off- 3 guys very respected in the player community, seem to have not much good to say about him.

I also believe that his play this year are doing the type of moves he has done, and "hoping" a couple of the big names fall into a Alonso situation. And if that happens- let's hope they bring a WS because he will play games with them as well, even if they have huge years.

I have not seen a single good thing said about Stearns in NY except- "he must have a plan"
We got to the NLCS in his first year how does that suck?

I haven't seen any specific comments bashing Stearns from Nimmo, Alonso, Diaz. Can you provide some context please? Again Diaz was wanted back and acted like he was slighted when he wasn't. Alonso long term wasn't wanted on a long term deal. We've discussed this back and forth already. We'll see after year 2 if Stearns was right or wrong. I've said I wanted Alonso back but I trust the GM here if he didn't. I have to let it play out.

For all the people here complaining a lot of fans are just as happy they're turning the page on this group of players. As they say the complainers are the loudest.
 

yesrutgers01

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We got to the NLCS in his first year how does that suck?

I haven't seen any specific comments bashing Stearns from Nimmo, Alonso, Diaz. Can you provide some context please? Again Diaz was wanted back and acted like he was slighted when he wasn't. Alonso long term wasn't wanted on a long term deal. We've discussed this back and forth already. We'll see after year 2 if Stearns was right or wrong. I've said I wanted Alonso back but I trust the GM here if he didn't. I have to let it play out.

For all the people here complaining a lot of fans are just as happy they're turning the page on this group of players. As they say the complainers are the loudest.
Flood got a BE Championship his first year.,,

And no- not all that many fans are happy in who he decided were the ones to turn the page with when he brings back players that are older and frankly, except for “possibly” Semien, better.

and if you haven’t heard anything from those players, then you really are just not listening.
And if you are around sports long enough, then “unsaid” is usually what speaks loudest.

I have been around enough players who often let the unsaid just speak for itself.

I have already said, let him prove me wrong and I hope he does. But don’t point to a year 1. And we know he failed last year and outside of contracts- please share how any of the big three that are gone had anything to do with it. Maybe without Montas, we would have had the money for Alonso/ but, oh wait, Alonso- Run prevention. And yet, one of tge best in baseball in scoops. And tge fing guy never misses a game and good for 110+ RBI.

I think I just don’t see your love for Stearns. And the obvious thing with Stearns- he f-ing lies outright to the fanbase and he wants players he never has to pay a 2nd contract to.
 

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So- currently- we have a 2B at 1B, 2B at 2B, 2B at 3B, 2B at LF and 2B for most of our bench and 2B for most of our prospects.....

I think I see the plan...Outside of catcher, traditionally the weakest hitting position should field all of our spots...
Clearly, Stearns is inspired by Jeff Kent's induction
 
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