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Mark Pope - Evidence of A Disastrous Hire

To be transparent, I hated the Pope hire when it was announced and found the entire process to be extremely rushed. With that said, I gave the man a chance to prove himself as a coach and was actually very pleased with his first season at UK. However, his second season was an unmitigated disaster, and things we brushed aside last year due to injuries and a general lack of talent remained constant even when the team was relatively healthy. Despite a brutal season full of unhinged comments, ill-conceived roster construction, payroll mismanagement, poor talent evaluations, questionable rotations, and suspect offensive philosophies, many UK fans and media are still holding out hope that Pope can be the guy. Which leads me to ask... what evidence is there that this man is, or ever has been, qualified to be the head coach at the best college basketball program in the country? For perspective, here was Pope's resume before arriving at UK:
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Double digit losses in every season as a P5 head coach
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • .500 record in conference tournaments
  • Zero NCAA tournament wins
  • Zero top 25 recruits signed
If you're being objective, this is clearly not the resume of someone deserving to be the head coach at Kentucky. Many people argued that with UK's resources, Pope could be elevated to an elite coach, but that argument could be made about any coach with his resume (of which there are likely dozens if not hundreds of them). However Pope had all the resources in the world to build an elite team last year, and instead Pope:
  • Missed on all his top portal targets
  • Assembled a team with no backup PG despite just going through a season where our top two PG options missed substantial stretches of the season due to injury
  • Filled the roster with players who were not proven shooters despite shooters being key to his offensive philosophy
  • Made comments eluding to Garrison and Noah being viewed as core contributors despite minor contributions in the prior season
  • Missed on all his high school recruiting targets and has zero signed players going into his third season
This is not the resume of a program building coach - this is someone with a clear inability to attract top talent and evaluate/manage the talent he already has. For most, this would be enough evidence to show Mark Pope is not the guy for this job, but in case you're still not convinced, here's a statistical summary of his performance so far at UK:
  • 46-26 (64%) overall record (trending negatively)
  • 20-16 (56%) regular season conference record (trending stable despite much worse conference quality in year 2)
  • 6-13 (32%) record against Kenpom Top 15 teams (trending negatively)
  • 21-25 (46%) record against Kenpom Top 50 teams (trending negatively)
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • Zero elite eight appearances
So again I ask... what evidence is there that this man is qualified to be the coach at the best basketball program in the country? I'm sorry but it is abundantly clear to me that Mark Pope is not going to work here, and frankly we should have never expected him to be successful given his track record. Mitch screwed up royally and tried to cover his a** by playing to our older fanbase's nostalgia, but this isn't the 1990's. We're in the NIL era. Coaches don't need several years to "build a program", and Kentucky is not the place for a head coach to "figure out" how to be elite. Mitch's gamble isn't working, and every day we're stuck with Pope as the coach is another day of wasted potential for the basketball program we all love. **EDIT** To all the commenters posting something to the effect of "haven't read this before", do try to understand that not everyone has been a KSR+ subscriber for as long as you have, and your reading experience is not the same as everyone else. Also, nobody is forcing you to read a thread that is clearly titled as a criticism of Pope's hiring and performance.
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FoxMonkBAM!

Mar 26, 3:09 PM

Fresh perspective, thanks
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zerubbable

Mar 26, 3:10 PM

🙄🙄🙄
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Nathtoy98

Mar 26, 3:10 PM

I agree with a lot of this generally but this has all been discussed ad nauseaum all year At this point he’s gonna be here a 3rd year at least. There’s nothing any of us can do about it so time to lock in on next season.
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JenksOnKentucky

Mar 26, 3:11 PM

Amen pastor. He sucks
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Eric_Draven

Mar 26, 3:11 PM

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bassworship

Mar 26, 3:11 PM

DRBO222 said:
To be transparent, I hated the Pope hire when it was announced and found the entire process to be extremely rushed. With that said, I gave the man a chance to prove himself as a coach and was actually very pleased with his first season at UK. However, his second season was an unmitigated disaster, and things we brushed aside last year due to injuries and a general lack of talent remained constant even when the team was relatively healthy. Despite a brutal season full of unhinged comments, ill-conceived roster construction, payroll mismanagement, poor talent evaluations, questionable rotations, and suspect offensive philosophies, many UK fans and media are still holding out hope that Pope can be the guy. Which leads me to ask... what evidence is there that this man is, or ever has been, qualified to be the head coach at the best college basketball program in the country? For perspective, here was Pope's resume before arriving at UK:
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Double digit losses in every season as a P5 head coach
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • .500 record in conference tournaments
  • Zero NCAA tournament wins
  • Zero top 25 recruits signed
If you're being objective, this is clearly not the resume of someone deserving to be the head coach at Kentucky. Many people argued that with UK's resources, Pope could be elevated to an elite coach, but that argument could be made about any coach with his resume (of which there are likely dozens if not hundreds of them). However Pope had all the resources in the world to build an elite team last year, and instead Pope:
  • Missed on all his top portal targets
  • Assembled a team with no backup PG despite just going through a season where our top two PG options missed substantial stretches of the season due to injury
  • Filled the roster with players who were not proven shooters despite shooters being key to his offensive philosophy
  • Made comments eluding to Garrison and Noah being viewed as core contributors despite minor contributions in the prior season
  • Missed on all his high school recruiting targets and has zero signed players going into his third season
This is not the resume of a program building coach - this is someone with a clear inability to attract top talent and evaluate/manage the talent he already has. For most, this would be enough evidence to show Mark Pope is not the guy for this job, but in case you're still not convinced, here's a statistical summary of his performance so far at UK:
  • 46-26 (64%) overall record (trending negatively)
  • 20-16 (56%) regular season conference record (trending stable despite much worse conference quality in year 2)
  • 6-13 (32%) record against Kenpom Top 15 teams (trending negatively)
  • 21-25 (46%) record against Kenpom Top 50 teams (trending negatively)
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • Zero elite eight appearances
So again I ask... what evidence is there that this man is qualified to be the coach at the best basketball program in the country? I'm sorry but it is abundantly clear to me that Mark Pope is not going to work here, and frankly we should have never expected him to be successful given his track record. Mitch screwed up royally and tried to cover his a** by playing to our older fanbase's nostalgia, but this isn't the 1990's. We're in the NIL era. Coaches don't need several years to "build a program", and Kentucky is not the place for a head coach to "figure out" how to be elite. Mitch's gamble isn't working, and every day we're stuck with Pope as the coach is another day of wasted potential for the basketball program we all love.
Some of you need to get a life.
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CFE_

Mar 26, 3:11 PM

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DRBO222 said:
To be transparent, I hated the Pope hire when it was announced and found the entire process to be extremely rushed. With that said, I gave the man a chance to prove himself as a coach and was actually very pleased with his first season at UK. However, his second season was an unmitigated disaster, and things we brushed aside last year due to injuries and a general lack of talent remained constant even when the team was relatively healthy. Despite a brutal season full of unhinged comments, ill-conceived roster construction, payroll mismanagement, poor talent evaluations, questionable rotations, and suspect offensive philosophies, many UK fans and media are still holding out hope that Pope can be the guy. Which leads me to ask... what evidence is there that this man is, or ever has been, qualified to be the head coach at the best college basketball program in the country? For perspective, here was Pope's resume before arriving at UK:
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Double digit losses in every season as a P5 head coach
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • .500 record in conference tournaments
  • Zero NCAA tournament wins
  • Zero top 25 recruits signed
If you're being objective, this is clearly not the resume of someone deserving to be the head coach at Kentucky. Many people argued that with UK's resources, Pope could be elevated to an elite coach, but that argument could be made about any coach with his resume (of which there are likely dozens if not hundreds of them). However Pope had all the resources in the world to build an elite team last year, and instead Pope:
  • Missed on all his top portal targets
  • Assembled a team with no backup PG despite just going through a season where our top two PG options missed substantial stretches of the season due to injury
  • Filled the roster with players who were not proven shooters despite shooters being key to his offensive philosophy
  • Made comments eluding to Garrison and Noah being viewed as core contributors despite minor contributions in the prior season
  • Missed on all his high school recruiting targets and has zero signed players going into his third season
This is not the resume of a program building coach - this is someone with a clear inability to attract top talent and evaluate/manage the talent he already has. For most, this would be enough evidence to show Mark Pope is not the guy for this job, but in case you're still not convinced, here's a statistical summary of his performance so far at UK:
  • 46-26 (64%) overall record (trending negatively)
  • 20-16 (56%) regular season conference record (trending stable despite much worse conference quality in year 2)
  • 6-13 (32%) record against Kenpom Top 15 teams (trending negatively)
  • 21-25 (46%) record against Kenpom Top 50 teams (trending negatively)
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • Zero elite eight appearances
So again I ask... what evidence is there that this man is qualified to be the coach at the best basketball program in the country? I'm sorry but it is abundantly clear to me that Mark Pope is not going to work here, and frankly we should have never expected him to be successful given his track record. Mitch screwed up royally and tried to cover his a** by playing to our older fanbase's nostalgia, but this isn't the 1990's. We're in the NIL era. Coaches don't need several years to "build a program", and Kentucky is not the place for a head coach to "figure out" how to be elite. Mitch's gamble isn't working, and every day we're stuck with Pope as the coach is another day of wasted potential for the basketball program we all love.
This is me quoting you preaching to said choir.
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Saguaro Cat

Mar 26, 3:12 PM

hot take
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Catlanta47

Mar 26, 3:13 PM

Frankly, at this point his qualifications for getting the UK job are irrelevant. He has the job, so it really doesn’t matter if he was qualified or not. What matters is what he has done at UK. He has had one year where he has overachieved and one where he has underachieved. 2 years is not enough to establish a trend of good or bad, one is likely an outlier and this year will show us which one it is. If he shows a trend of not performing to the standard that is expected of the UK basketball, then he will no longer be the coach here. It’s as simple as that.
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bpfree

Mar 26, 3:13 PM

When looking at 2024 and the hiring process you’re first set of bullet points described Todd Golden as well…
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JT55

Mar 26, 3:13 PM

DRBO222 said:
To be transparent, I hated the Pope hire when it was announced and found the entire process to be extremely rushed. With that said, I gave the man a chance to prove himself as a coach and was actually very pleased with his first season at UK. However, his second season was an unmitigated disaster, and things we brushed aside last year due to injuries and a general lack of talent remained constant even when the team was relatively healthy. Despite a brutal season full of unhinged comments, ill-conceived roster construction, payroll mismanagement, poor talent evaluations, questionable rotations, and suspect offensive philosophies, many UK fans and media are still holding out hope that Pope can be the guy. Which leads me to ask... what evidence is there that this man is, or ever has been, qualified to be the head coach at the best college basketball program in the country? For perspective, here was Pope's resume before arriving at UK:
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Double digit losses in every season as a P5 head coach
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • .500 record in conference tournaments
  • Zero NCAA tournament wins
  • Zero top 25 recruits signed
If you're being objective, this is clearly not the resume of someone deserving to be the head coach at Kentucky. Many people argued that with UK's resources, Pope could be elevated to an elite coach, but that argument could be made about any coach with his resume (of which there are likely dozens if not hundreds of them). However Pope had all the resources in the world to build an elite team last year, and instead Pope:
  • Missed on all his top portal targets
  • Assembled a team with no backup PG despite just going through a season where our top two PG options missed substantial stretches of the season due to injury
  • Filled the roster with players who were not proven shooters despite shooters being key to his offensive philosophy
  • Made comments eluding to Garrison and Noah being viewed as core contributors despite minor contributions in the prior season
  • Missed on all his high school recruiting targets and has zero signed players going into his third season
This is not the resume of a program building coach - this is someone with a clear inability to attract top talent and evaluate/manage the talent he already has. For most, this would be enough evidence to show Mark Pope is not the guy for this job, but in case you're still not convinced, here's a statistical summary of his performance so far at UK:
  • 46-26 (64%) overall record (trending negatively)
  • 20-16 (56%) regular season conference record (trending stable despite much worse conference quality in year 2)
  • 6-13 (32%) record against Kenpom Top 15 teams (trending negatively)
  • 21-25 (46%) record against Kenpom Top 50 teams (trending negatively)
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • Zero elite eight appearances
So again I ask... what evidence is there that this man is qualified to be the coach at the best basketball program in the country? I'm sorry but it is abundantly clear to me that Mark Pope is not going to work here, and frankly we should have never expected him to be successful given his track record. Mitch screwed up royally and tried to cover his a** by playing to our older fanbase's nostalgia, but this isn't the 1990's. We're in the NIL era. Coaches don't need several years to "build a program", and Kentucky is not the place for a head coach to "figure out" how to be elite. Mitch's gamble isn't working, and every day we're stuck with Pope as the coach is another day of wasted potential for the basketball program we all love.
Post of the year. I couldn't agree more.
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VaHi_Cat

Mar 26, 3:15 PM

Wow. Hadn’t heard this before. Thanks for the post, Chat.
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Crowd Surfing Mark Stoops

Mar 26, 3:15 PM

Here’s the deal…He’s getting another year regardless of any argument to the contrary. It’s wasted energy at this point to invest in litigating why he should or shouldn’t be the coach because he still is for another year. Better to hope for the best and support what we have or will have than to piss into the wind and be miserable. We fans just need to ride with it now and revisit the situation next year.
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Mark_OH513

Mar 26, 3:15 PM

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yoshukai

Mar 26, 3:16 PM

DRBO222 said:
To be transparent, I hated the Pope hire when it was announced and found the entire process to be extremely rushed. With that said, I gave the man a chance to prove himself as a coach and was actually very pleased with his first season at UK. However, his second season was an unmitigated disaster, and things we brushed aside last year due to injuries and a general lack of talent remained constant even when the team was relatively healthy. Despite a brutal season full of unhinged comments, ill-conceived roster construction, payroll mismanagement, poor talent evaluations, questionable rotations, and suspect offensive philosophies, many UK fans and media are still holding out hope that Pope can be the guy. Which leads me to ask... what evidence is there that this man is, or ever has been, qualified to be the head coach at the best college basketball program in the country? For perspective, here was Pope's resume before arriving at UK:
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Double digit losses in every season as a P5 head coach
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • .500 record in conference tournaments
  • Zero NCAA tournament wins
  • Zero top 25 recruits signed
If you're being objective, this is clearly not the resume of someone deserving to be the head coach at Kentucky. Many people argued that with UK's resources, Pope could be elevated to an elite coach, but that argument could be made about any coach with his resume (of which there are likely dozens if not hundreds of them). However Pope had all the resources in the world to build an elite team last year, and instead Pope:
  • Missed on all his top portal targets
  • Assembled a team with no backup PG despite just going through a season where our top two PG options missed substantial stretches of the season due to injury
  • Filled the roster with players who were not proven shooters despite shooters being key to his offensive philosophy
  • Made comments eluding to Garrison and Noah being viewed as core contributors despite minor contributions in the prior season
  • Missed on all his high school recruiting targets and has zero signed players going into his third season
This is not the resume of a program building coach - this is someone with a clear inability to attract top talent and evaluate/manage the talent he already has. For most, this would be enough evidence to show Mark Pope is not the guy for this job, but in case you're still not convinced, here's a statistical summary of his performance so far at UK:
  • 46-26 (64%) overall record (trending negatively)
  • 20-16 (56%) regular season conference record (trending stable despite much worse conference quality in year 2)
  • 6-13 (32%) record against Kenpom Top 15 teams (trending negatively)
  • 21-25 (46%) record against Kenpom Top 50 teams (trending negatively)
  • Zero regular season conference titles
  • Zero conference tournament championships
  • Zero elite eight appearances
So again I ask... what evidence is there that this man is qualified to be the coach at the best basketball program in the country? I'm sorry but it is abundantly clear to me that Mark Pope is not going to work here, and frankly we should have never expected him to be successful given his track record. Mitch screwed up royally and tried to cover his a** by playing to our older fanbase's nostalgia, but this isn't the 1990's. We're in the NIL era. Coaches don't need several years to "build a program", and Kentucky is not the place for a head coach to "figure out" how to be elite. Mitch's gamble isn't working, and every day we're stuck with Pope as the coach is another day of wasted potential for the basketball program we all love.
Nothing we haven’t read before on here . What are you expecting to accomplish with a post like this ?
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AwesomeBillFromDawsonville

Mar 26, 3:17 PM

yoshukai said:
Nothing we haven’t read before on here . What are you expecting to accomplish with a post like this ?
Sometimes you just have to let people be angry.
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FoxMonkBAM!

Mar 26, 3:18 PM

yoshukai said:
Nothing we haven’t read before on here . What are you expecting to accomplish with a post like this ?
Maybe THIS will be the one that Mitch sees!
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OldDocCat

Mar 26, 3:18 PM

Impressive, superbly redundant, comprehensive post for the anti-Pope argument. Now do the other side. It is refreshing that a few brave souls are finally, finally emerging to express their displeasure with Coach Pope.
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LCI5

Mar 26, 3:19 PM

yoshukai said:
Nothing we haven’t read before on here . What are you expecting to accomplish with a post like this ?
The man wrote an essay and needed to post it somewhere. Good for him.
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yoshukai

Mar 26, 3:19 PM

AwesomeBillFromDawsonville said:
Sometimes you just have to let people be angry.
I agree and I am . We all know it and it’s all been said and except for one or two people everyone agrees .
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KYHoopsBuzz

Mar 26, 3:19 PM

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BBNinCarolina

Mar 26, 3:19 PM

bpfree said:
When looking at 2024 and the hiring process you’re first set of bullet points described Todd Golden as well…
Yup. Other than a terrible year 2 (defined by both unexpected injuries and terrible coaching decisions), I don’t know what to do with these background analyses. It’s not too different from Golden or Hurley before their big jobs or even before their third and fourth years at their big jobs. Pope’s first year we had one of the highest final KenPom rankings we’ve had in about 6-8 years (a spot higher than Cal’s Arkansas team with loads of talent landed this season). Pope was always about potential. Not saying I’m satisfied. But there’s a year 3 to prove it or move on, so I’m not going to just hope it all fails for the next 12 months. Go Cats!
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Matty_Cam

Mar 26, 3:21 PM

Pope would be much better off if he could flip his two seasons here. This one obviously being season 1 and last year season 2. The downward trajectory after having big time money and resources for this past year is what was and is most concerning for me. Instead of building on what he did year one, he regressed. And I’m not sure that bodes well for the future. Always thought year 1 would be his worst team he ever had here. I was wrong.
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LCI5

Mar 26, 3:22 PM

I get its been said a million times but it was a clearly a lazy hire by Mitch. Timing was bad and wasnt willing to wait with the portal open. We will see how this year goes but if he doesnt have a pretty convincing season he will be replaced and UK will make a UK level hire. Dont worry too much OP. A lot of the fanbase agrees with you.

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