Not paying Ward and thinking he could put DJU behind our OL. The fact that Joseph is at Wisconsin leads me thinking they already out bid us. Talking to Lagway and Daniels is similar to the DJU project. Hopefully there are enough evaluators around to get this right.
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MDNole301
Jan 03, 6:46 PM
Nope. The biggest mistake was assuming the trash Oline and Oline coach were good, when in reality, JT and Trey Benson, masked a failed group.
JaxBeachNole
Jan 03, 6:49 PM
Chrisnole said:This^^^ Wiscy is going to overpay and he won’t visit us imoNot paying Ward and thinking he could put DJU behind our OL. The fact that Joseph is at Wisconsin leads me thinking they already out bid us. Talking to Lagway and Daniels is similar to the DJU project. Hopefully there are enough evaluators around to get this right.
Bojim
Jan 03, 6:57 PM
We weren't going to outbid Miami. We could have pushed harder and tried to drive the price on them, but we were never signing him.
Also, you forget that he declared for the NFL draft. I think we were trying to get someone signed before the spring semester started and he wasn't even available at that point. Miami is on a different academic schedule.
Browardnole13
Jan 03, 7:08 PM
His biggest mistake is telling recruits we can win with or without them. Talent matters when coaching is subpar. You have two contrasting examples in Miami and Indiana. Our coaching staff needs to follow the Miami method.
Brix5398
Jan 03, 7:26 PM
Chrisnole said:You think there was only one? WowNot paying Ward and thinking he could put DJU behind our OL. The fact that Joseph is at Wisconsin leads me thinking they already out bid us. Talking to Lagway and Daniels is similar to the DJU project. Hopefully there are enough evaluators around to get this right.
NoleTigity11
Jan 03, 7:34 PM
Chrisnole said:Ward was not going to be what he was behind that Oline with no run game. (not to mention that receiving group dropping passes) I said it early last year. If you put Tom Brady behind that line with that run game he fails. The much larger mistake was the mis evaluation of the Oline. Now we may not be 2-10 but we might have won 5-6 games so it would have still been considered disaster.Not paying Ward and thinking he could put DJU behind our OL. The fact that Joseph is at Wisconsin leads me thinking they already out bid us. Talking to Lagway and Daniels is similar to the DJU project. Hopefully there are enough evaluators around to get this right.
FSUbret
Jan 03, 7:47 PM
Chrisnole said:Biggest mistake was hiring Allen and Atkins (along with the position coaches). FSU went 10-3 and 13-0 in spite of the coaching staff, not because of it. Jordan Travis was a unicorn.Not paying Ward and thinking he could put DJU behind our OL. The fact that Joseph is at Wisconsin leads me thinking they already out bid us. Talking to Lagway and Daniels is similar to the DJU project. Hopefully there are enough evaluators around to get this right.
northvanole
Jan 03, 7:53 PM
Bojim said:Ward did not declare for the NFL draft UNTIL talks with FSU ended on Dec. 31. He declared the next day. Without an agent.We weren't going to outbid Miami. We could have pushed harder and tried to drive the price on them, but we were never signing him. Also, you forget that he declared for the NFL draft. I think we were trying to get someone signed before the spring semester started and he wasn't even available at that point. Miami is on a different academic schedule.
NoleTigity11
Jan 03, 8:59 PM
northvanole said:Exactly, he used the threat of the draft to get the most amount of money out of Miami. Miami got desperate late in the game and gave in to his financial demands on Jan 14 when they had exhausted all other options. People love to ignore the realities of history.Ward did not declare for the NFL draft UNTIL talks with FSU ended on Dec. 31. He declared the next day. Without an agent.
Ironclad Nole
Jan 03, 10:16 PM
2025 was the result of five years of mistakes. One player was not going to overcome that.
SmittyNOLES
Jan 03, 10:21 PM
He knows what it looks like guys!!!Trust the process!🤣😂🤣😂
Kdswain
Jan 03, 10:26 PM
NoleTigity11 said:They also had like 2 additional weeks to get him enrolled so they had time to wait.Exactly, he used the threat of the draft to get the most amount of money out of Miami. Miami got desperate late in the game and gave in to his financial demands on Jan 14 when they had exhausted all other options. People love to ignore the realities of history.
FisherWilcoxTaggart Survivor
Jan 03, 10:33 PM
MDNole301 said:Also, look at Norvell's incredible whiffs at the critical QB position, whether in the portal or at the high school level. He simply cannot identify, and then attract, anyone who is actually "good" at that important position.Nope. The biggest mistake was assuming the trash Oline and Oline coach were good, when in reality, JT and Trey Benson, masked a failed group.
hogpynn
Jan 03, 10:36 PM
Chrisnole said:Or Norvel wanted him and couldn’t pay him 10 million and match miami. 4.7 and the rest under the table You don’t know Joseph is their top pick.Not paying Ward and thinking he could put DJU behind our OL. The fact that Joseph is at Wisconsin leads me thinking they already out bid us. Talking to Lagway and Daniels is similar to the DJU project. Hopefully there are enough evaluators around to get this right.
hogpynn
Jan 03, 10:37 PM
JaxBeachNole said:We are not paying 6 million .This^^^ Wiscy is going to overpay and he won’t visit us imo
SnowNole
Jan 03, 11:47 PM
DJU is Mike’s biggest mistake to date. Period.
Pot Roast
Jan 03, 11:48 PM
Browardnole13 said:its almost like you are actually in the meetings...amazing.His biggest mistake is telling recruits we can win with or without them. Talent matters when coaching is subpar. You have two contrasting examples in Miami and Indiana. Our coaching staff needs to follow the Miami method.
o_Tarpon91
Jan 03, 11:49 PM
his biggest mistake was not clearing out the previous sraff when they showed early on they were lazy recruiters
Rockman1966
Jan 03, 11:50 PM
This team was doomed by poor tackling, horrific RB rotation, inexplicable play-calling, an unexplainable lack of effort, and a failure of leaders to emerge in virtually every player groups.
One more, pathetic special teams. Just fair catch every punt!
Browardnole13
Jan 04, 12:06 AM
Pot Roast said:Its amazing its an actual quote from Norvell.its almost like you are actually in the meetings...amazing.
Ferg66
Jan 04, 12:18 AM
Chrisnole said:You really think Joseph is the first choiceNot paying Ward and thinking he could put DJU behind our OL. The fact that Joseph is at Wisconsin leads me thinking they already out bid us. Talking to Lagway and Daniels is similar to the DJU project. Hopefully there are enough evaluators around to get this right.
o_Noletaire
Jan 04, 1:26 AM
MDNole301 said:Exactly right.Nope. The biggest mistake was assuming the trash Oline and Oline coach were good, when in reality, JT and Trey Benson, masked a failed group.
FisherWilcoxTaggart Survivor said:^^^This coach mike has not identified and recruited one successful QB in 6 years. Travis, transferred under sweet willie. This level of football is just beyond coach mike. 9-3 looks like a miracle at this point.Also, look at Norvell's incredible whiffs at the critical QB position, whether in the portal or at the high school level. He simply cannot identify, and then attract, anyone who is actually "good" at that important position.
Nole3612
Jan 04, 1:28 AM
Biggest mistake was taking a job he wasn’t anywhere near prepared for! This job has and will be over his head.
Dmar3636
Jan 04, 1:48 AM
His two biggest mistakes were not declining that dog and pony show of a bowl game and DJU.
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