Oregon's Transfer Portal Haul Likely Finished, For Now

Aren’t we at like 75 ish scholarships? Don’t we need more bodies?

you've got to be kidding me

j1dowers said:

Aren’t we at like 75 ish scholarships? Don’t we need more bodies?

Again, the scholarship distinction is irrelevant anymore. Schools are limited to a roster size of 105, all of which can be scholarships or only a portion of them, that’s up to each school. So you have to count everyone on the roster. I think if you look at last year’s Oregon roster, count everyone who hasn’t entered the portal or declared for the NFL draft, and add in all the newcomers, you’ll find Oregon’s roster size is in the upper 90s right now.

According to this, we have 46 out and 36 in so far. Doesn’t include walk ons that we might pick up but it does have walkons that have transferred out.

Further scouting of graduate transfers and the portal would be unsurprising.

Corpatty said:

Again, the scholarship distinction is irrelevant anymore. Schools are limited to a roster size of 105, all of which can be scholarships or only a portion of them, that’s up to each school. So you have to count everyone on the roster. I think if you look at last year’s Oregon roster, count everyone who hasn’t entered the portal or declared for the NFL draft, and add in all the newcomers, you’ll find Oregon’s roster size is in the upper 90s right now.

Exactly. Here's an example - the roster includes a guy like Mark Weipert who is technically a PWO. But he had offers to play QB at Wazzu, UW and OSU and many more. If you don't think he is getting the full benefits of a scholarship + NIL as a "PWO" I don't know what to tell you. He has one of the 105 - and I seriously doubt any on Oregon's 105 is paying for school.

evilduck said:

Exactly. Here's an example - the roster includes a guy like Mark Weipert who is technically a PWO. But he had offers to play QB at Wazzu, UW and OSU and many more. If you don't think he is getting the full benefits of a scholarship + NIL as a "PWO" I don't know what to tell you. He has one of the 105 - and I seriously doubt any on Oregon's 105 is paying for school.

There are several paying for school

The oline and linebackers are going to keep next year from being special. Maybe the coaching as well, guess we’ll see about that.

DATBoy6 said:

There are several paying for school

Sure. OK. And there are several PWO's that are effectively on a full scholarship. The 105 cap matters - the old 85 scholly limit isn't a thing.

Definitely our weakest portal class under Dan, but that is because of the high school recruiting the past few years and retaining guys. If either OL or LB end up stopping us from winning a natty I think next offseason will be a very toxic one.

I never said anything about the 85 scholarship limit. For some, that is probably true. I know a few myself on the roster though that are paying for school and don’t just get NIL to cover the cost. You can think whatever you like.

This also allows you to sign a bigger recruiting class this cycle.

JustinHopkins said:

This also allows you to sign a bigger recruiting class this cycle.

This ^^

DATBoy6 said:

I never said anything about the 85 scholarship limit. For some, that is probably true. I know a few myself on the roster though that are paying for school and don’t just get NIL to cover the cost. You can think whatever you like.

Did I say I didn't believe you? I do. I just don't think people need to really think about Scholarship players vs Walk-Ons. There is a potpouri of arrangements that build up a roster. People need to focus on 105 as the cap. Like the late "PWO" DL commitment from Hawaii - Tevita Paongo. I doubt he's paying to play football at Oregon.

JustinHopkins said:

This also allows you to sign a bigger recruiting class this cycle.

Sure, but weren’t you saying Oregon was a little behind where they typically are recruiting relationships wise soo far this cycle…? Obviously a lot of time to rectify this, just if true, seems like the staff are setting themselves up for quite a bit of recruiting work

NIL money and NFL $$$ are not at linebacker. Hard hitting, stop RBs in their tracks, sound positional play, take on linemen, sideline to sideline, cover RBs and TEs downfield … Like TEs, high level LBs make a huge difference. The elite battles for preps and the projection of safeties bulking up as LBs is brutal. Now that the Ducks are serious in the trenches and becoming TE-university (having had excellent TEs in the past), the next upgrade is, IMHO, at LB. It will come from the preps (elite) and internal development (bulking up and with speed). Next year — got a feeling — will surprise in a good way at LB.

DucksFC said:

you've got to be kidding me

There is no one left bro what are you talking about

Corpatty said:

Again, the scholarship distinction is irrelevant anymore. Schools are limited to a roster size of 105, all of which can be scholarships or only a portion of them, that’s up to each school. So you have to count everyone on the roster. I think if you look at last year’s Oregon roster, count everyone who hasn’t entered the portal or declared for the NFL draft, and add in all the newcomers, you’ll find Oregon’s roster size is in the upper 90s right now.

J1dowers point still stands...the roster is not yet full and, presumably, still has room to add, no?

Jdub32 said:

Definitely our weakest portal class under Dan, but that is because of the high school recruiting the past few years and retaining guys. If either OL or LB end up stopping us from winning a natty I think next offseason will be a very toxic one.

You mean very toxic on the scoopduck message board lol. That's on the people who post here and in any case who cares outside of the message board

Chile Duck’s roster count for last year finished at 99 total. If we’re in the mid 90’s now, there’s just a handful of potential spots anyway. Scant margin to keep open a few spots depending on how spring practices go, if anyone interesting shakes out from the grad transfer ranks, any reclassifications, etc.

evilduck said:

Did I say I didn't believe you? I do. I just don't think people need to really think about Scholarship players vs Walk-Ons. There is a potpouri of arrangements that build up a roster. People need to focus on 105 as the cap. Like the late "PWO" DL commitment from Hawaii - Tevita Paongo. I doubt he's paying to play football at Oregon.

Cool, I never commented on that. You said you seriously doubt anyone on Oregon’s 105 is paying for school. I said I know there are several paying for school. You responded with this nonsense “Sure. OK. And there are several PWO's that are effectively on a full scholarship. The 105 cap matters - the old 85 scholly limit isn't a thing.”

913516 said:

You mean very toxic on the scoopduck message board lol. That's on the people who post here and in any case who cares outside of the message board

I don’t mean Dan will be on the hot seat at all or anything like that. But if this season doesn’t go according to plan, I do hope Dan will make tough choices when it comes to staff if needed as Jhops comment about him wanting yes men around him is somewhat concerning. Not adjusting the way you need to after tough losses is how a coach eventually becomes James Franklin.

DATBoy6 said:

Cool, I never commented on that. You said you seriously doubt anyone on Oregon’s 105 is paying for school. I said I know there are several paying for school. You responded with this nonsense “Sure. OK. And there are several PWO's that are effectively on a full scholarship. The 105 cap matters - the old 85 scholly limit isn't a thing.”

Enjoy your day.

JustinHopkins said:

This also allows you to sign a bigger recruiting class this cycle.

So you return all these guys but appear to have a meh oline and linebackers and the reason is to get more high school recruits? If true that is a crap plan. You hope you’re genuinely elite at dline, RB, QB, WR, TE, and DB’s but say “who needs linebackers and lineman. So weird.