Isaiah Coleman 28 & 8 vs Auburn
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Why would he stay in an offensive system with no other shooters and slow pace?
He got paid and got in a better offensive system to showcase himself
He got paid and got in a better offensive system to showcase himself
Having a point guard to set Coleman up would have helped him immensely.
He was plenty productive last year until Jenkins (and Dylan) went down and stripped the offense bare.
He averaged over 21 a game in the six full BE games before Jenkins was injured. Over 20 BE games he averaged 17.4 per even with a couple of atrocious nights.
That said we were never going to pay him close to market value.
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Playing on last year's team was likely worse than watching last year's team.
Can understand how a young man with options would be tempted to explore them.
Can understand how a young man with options would be tempted to explore them.
lol, it’s insane how badly basketball players lie about their height. Now it’s because they get “measured in their shoes”. I guess they wear heels.
The teams exaggerate their height usually when they publish their roster - it's not the players.
Wait a minute….
this is a thread based on a player’s output for a scrimmage? For an essential single practice that doesn’t count?
This board loves to follow how ex players do on other teams and the start a thread on how we missed out.
We need another Anthony Nelson or Jordan Walker thread. How are they doing overseas?
this is a thread based on a player’s output for a scrimmage? For an essential single practice that doesn’t count?
This board loves to follow how ex players do on other teams and the start a thread on how we missed out.
We need another Anthony Nelson or Jordan Walker thread. How are they doing overseas?
IC did a bunch of things last season that drove me nuts. Little things and I attributed them to lack of focus
Along with a very good offensive game Zay had the physical skills to be an elite defender. Unfortunately he was very inconsistent on both ends. We never knew what version of Zay we were gonna get, yet he was still one of the better players in the league.
I am not sure we could offer him enough money to return. I think he had lost focus as he did not like the style of play or the way Sha ran the team. I think he and his family thought a change of scenery would be beneficial. Always like IC, i hope he has a great season similar to Khadary last year.
No problem with Coleman looking for more $$$. What boggles my mind are a few posters saying they didn’t want him back, he wasn’t a good player, he was inconsistent or lacked focus, was just chucking shots,etc, etc, etc. He was a second year player with upside being asked to carry a lousy team.
The question was asking price. Word leaked from decent sources that he wanted $1.5M. There was no way in hell the Pirates had that money to give when the ask was made.
We had to wait until the court case (never a given) was resolved before we had that kind of money. And then the question would have been do you really want to give that kind of money to a 6-3 wing?
We had to wait until the court case (never a given) was resolved before we had that kind of money. And then the question would have been do you really want to give that kind of money to a 6-3 wing?
I look at this from both sides.
I can see the real concerns about asking price and the ability/want to pay.
At the same time sometimes you might have to overpay to keep a talent to show that you're serious about trying to compete.
Let's see him avg shooting percentage of 50 40 80 and see what he does against Iowa state before some here want to build him a statue
In 2004 as a Louisville assistant.
Coleman is playing ball less than 2 months after a DUI arrest. Slap on the wrist I guess?
People don’t realize how good he is…if you compare year by year he was better than Jared Rhoden in his first 2 years…by a wide margin. I would’ve given him a million. I think he’s that good.
But what if last year soured him to the point where he just wanted out?
It probably did but If you throw someone a lot of money to stay and be the number one option…
His asking price was one he knew would never be matched and he settled for a lot less after he left. He wanted out after last season when by midseason he started to play selfishly and not for the team.
Hunted points and played no defense. You do not award a 6-3 wing with $1.5M for that.
I have no ill will towards him but I'm not rooting for him like I did for Richmond and Davis as I did last season.
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Hunted points and played no defense. You do not award a 6-3 wing with $1.5M for that.
I have no ill will towards him but I'm not rooting for him like I did for Richmond and Davis as I did last season.
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I too have no ill will towards Isaiah. I do hope I need to go to the Ok St web site to get his stats over the season.
Exactly.
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I don't know if I never knew that or just forgot it, but I guess either way, it's the same result.Exactly.
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When I was in high school, my class went to our auditorium and sat down for a presentation from MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving). After a video that likely swayed no one, we had a speaker that …
Is that the type of guy you want as your No. 1 option, especially if you are looking to rebuild the program? If that’s what it’s come to, count me out.
In the 70s, in Avon, we had a terrific guy who was a retired vet and now worked for the town public works. He went to Kellys after work and tied a load on. The cops would be waiting for him on the Avon side of the bridge and they would escort him home. And then, things really changed. I remember being at a bar and we all wanted to drive home with one of our friends who was known as our best drunk driver. Even today, surprised and elated I survived all the insanity.Exactly.
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When I was in high school, my class went to our auditorium and sat down for a presentation from MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving). After a video that likely swayed no one, we had a speaker that …
I hear you, but let's also be real. The Coleman stuff about him being a "me first" player didn't seriously come out on our boards until he was long gone. When someone even insinuated he might be playing this way during the season -- which I did -- we were smacked down. Coincidence? Of course not. If we had been able to retain Coleman, the stuff that's come out wouldn't see the light of day here or been amplified how it has been amplified. Since he's gone, the "narrative building" starts. Likewise, while a DUI is an irresponsible and dangerous act (and one that occurs too often), you would have a line of posters excusing it if Coleman was back here and projected to be our best player.
The issue with losing Coleman isn't that he's worth these absurd amounts being tossed around, or whether he can grow into the best player or second best player on a NCAA team. The issue is once again losing our best player without replacing him. A junior Coleman -- who quickly became overrated last year when he had a few strong scoring games in a row -- would be in the argument for a potential preseason all league team IMO.
Not based on this
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