Lax vs PSU Game Thread

mdk02

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I am enjoying it BUT I won’t “stop” because we could be up 5 - EASILY - right now IF NOT for the same issues that cost us about four losses already this year including to teams like Army and Lehigh.

It’s a shame, that’s all ...

And if they hadn't hit 6 posts they'd be up by 6. And PSU fans are probably saying if they played better close D they'd be up by 5.
 

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And if they hadn't hit 6 posts they'd be up by 6. And PSU fans are probably saying if they played better close D they'd be up by 5.

OK so we go back to the fact that we constantly do the same things wrong game after game after game that are 100% mental, by the team and the coaches, which is not being ready to play at the beginning of games, at that beginning of second half, and at the end of each ******* quarter when we always seem to give up a goddamn goal like we just did again today. SAME **** DIFFERENT GAME. Wouldn’t you like to see that change for crying out loud? I know the rest of us would.
 

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Harryman with the clutch win. How different would the season had been if he had stayed healthy?
 

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We're just talented enough to play with anybody, and just mentally soft at the wrong time in games to lose games like this. What a shame. The team played so well. Our best shot maker misses the easiest shot he ever would have taken so far.

At least I know we can play with the best.
 
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AreYouNUTS

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...and ONCE AGAIN we look like **** coming out of a TO.2 AWFUL plays to end the game.

It REALLY is a shame. The talent is there. The coaching and mental aspect of the game, however, are highly questionable. Sorry.
 
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Great coaching today. Christiano back next will make a huge difference. Let’s hope he gets healthy. They feasted on our shorties all game.

Bullett did a great job on Ament. Super impressive.
 

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How did Mullins not pass that to AC immediately. This has to be the most frustrating team to follow. Year after year after year.
The pass Mullins tried to make was one of those impossible passes into the crease with two guys on our man. It's head scratching why Mullins didn't go to Adam there, who had the size on his defender just outside the crease.
 

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Great coaching today. Christiano back next will make a huge difference. Let’s hope he gets healthy. They feasted on our shorties all game.

Bullett did a great job on Ament. Super impressive.

We could lose 12 straight times to Lehigh (in the same season) and you’re not gonna put the coaching staff down lol...
 
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I love what we are doing with Ament.

No one has been able to handle him all season.

Hey Cali, I’m a former RU wrestler here and I deal with this negative bs from posters all the time. They talk about bad attitudes and lack of effort (completely subjective/poorly informed takes) from our wrestlers when they don’t win. It makes me so angry because it is not constructive criticism but rather just bitching and whining. There is a big tournament today and some kids didn’t do that well so out come the keyboard warriors making personal attacks. I can literally break down every wrestlers performance and make suggestions for improvement without questioning their character. I don’t know them well enough to even make a character assessment (which I would never do publicly anyway). I do know that several of our wrestlers spent many hours out of season preparing for this tournament and traveled across the country to compete in an effort to keep getting better. More wins would be nice but these people need to get a grip and look at themselves before they start bashing others.
 

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Hey Cali, I’m a former RU wrestler here and I deal with this negative bs from posters all the time. They talk about bad attitudes and lack of effort (completely subjective/poorly informed takes) from our wrestlers when they don’t win. It makes me so angry because it is not constructive criticism but rather just bitching and whining. There is a big tournament today and some kids didn’t do that well so out come the keyboard warriors making personal attacks. I can literally break down every wrestlers performance and make suggestions for improvement without questioning their character. I don’t know them well enough to even make a character assessment (which I would never do publicly anyway). I do know that several of our wrestlers spent many hours out of season preparing for this tournament and traveled across the country to compete in an effort to keep getting better. More wins would be nice but these people need to get a grip and look at themselves before they start bashing others.

RU has more "keyboard Coaches" who love to ***** & moan constantly, then any other team in the nation, bunch of self loathing losers, who think they know what they are talking about & never played a competitive sport in their lives
 

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Hey Cali, I’m a former RU wrestler here and I deal with this negative bs from posters all the time. They talk about bad attitudes and lack of effort (completely subjective/poorly informed takes) from our wrestlers when they don’t win. It makes me so angry because it is not constructive criticism but rather just bitching and whining. There is a big tournament today and some kids didn’t do that well so out come the keyboard warriors making personal attacks. I can literally break down every wrestlers performance and make suggestions for improvement without questioning their character. I don’t know them well enough to even make a character assessment (which I would never do publicly anyway). I do know that several of our wrestlers spent many hours out of season preparing for this tournament and traveled across the country to compete in an effort to keep getting better. More wins would be nice but these people need to get a grip and look at themselves before they start bashing others.

Who said anything about attitude or effort? Certainly not me.
 

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Hey Cali, I’m a former RU wrestler here and I deal with this negative bs from posters all the time. They talk about bad attitudes and lack of effort (completely subjective/poorly informed takes) from our wrestlers when they don’t win. It makes me so angry because it is not constructive criticism but rather just bitching and whining. There is a big tournament today and some kids didn’t do that well so out come the keyboard warriors making personal attacks. I can literally break down every wrestlers performance and make suggestions for improvement without questioning their character. I don’t know them well enough to even make a character assessment (which I would never do publicly anyway). I do know that several of our wrestlers spent many hours out of season preparing for this tournament and traveled across the country to compete in an effort to keep getting better. More wins would be nice but these people need to get a grip and look at themselves before they start bashing others.

I honestly don't mind the negative stuff, assuming it is from people that know what they are talking about. The squad isn't perfect and I have questioned a number of things along the way. Today was a great effort all the way around, with a team slightly undermanned, on a B1G teams homefield, who is ranked number 1 and has been blitzing teams. They made one more play than we did. There was a lot to be proud of today. Unfortunately, I have a low threshold for uneducated comments. I generally laugh at them. A couple of guys I respect and try to educate, but they just don't get it. They'd rather make super sports generalized comments and not take the time to actually understand what happened and what they are watching. Just blame the coaching staff. Which is incredibly silly if they only understood what we have on the sidelines.

I know nothing about wrestling. When I watch, I ask some questions, and keep my mouth shut.
 
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We could lose 12 straight times to Lehigh (in the same season) and you’re not gonna put the coaching staff down lol...

Complete ********. The fact that you are blaming the staff, yet again, for a 1 goal loss to the best team in the country on their field tells me one thing. I think I gave you too much credit for your lacrosse knowledge, lol.
 

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RU has more "keyboard Coaches" who love to ***** & moan constantly, then any other team in the nation, bunch of self loathing losers, who think they know what they are talking about & never played a competitive sport in their lives

We really do. I think it's a Jersey thing. Everyone has an opinion on everything, even if they know nothing.
 
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Hey the bottom line is that this was likely our best opportunity to take a much needed game from PSU and then avoid them in the first round on Thursday. AC has a point blank shot but can't convert and then we can't get a ground ball and allow an easy one with the guy open right in front of Max. Unfortunately that was the difference. Hitting six posts didn't help. I only saw the fourth quarter.

Sounds like we competed well throughout and got very good efforts from several individuals but I don't necessarily conclude this bodes well for us on Thursday. Another tough loss in a season full of tough and disappointing losses. I guess its win the tourney or stay home.
 
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RU has more "keyboard Coaches" who love to ***** & moan constantly, then any other team in the nation, bunch of self loathing losers, who think they know what they are talking about & never played a competitive sport in their lives

You’d likely be wrong about that most of the time. Sometimes it’s those NOT SO CLOSE to the program who are just willing to point out the glaringly obvious issues.

A couple games? **** happens. An entire season of the same things happening over and over again? It’s a problem. There are also some GREAT things to talk about which is why it makes it so much harder to take losses THAT COULD EASILY have been wins (regardless of opponent). WE HAVE TOP 10 TALENT, period, so it’s head-shaking to see the same things continue to happen when there’s no need.

Oh yeah My friends who played college lacrosse, one of whom was a multiple all-American, see the same things that some of us here see.

I want this team to succeed...I want Brecht to succeed...so far? We still haven’t made the NCAA’s and, like it or not, that’s a problem.
 

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You’d likely be wrong about that most of the time. Sometimes it’s those NOT SO CLOSE to the program who are just willing to point out the glaringly obvious issues.

A couple games? **** happens. An entire season of the same things happening over and over again? It’s a problem. There are also some GREAT things to talk about which is why it makes it so much harder to take losses THAT COULD EASILY have been wins (regardless of opponent). WE HAVE TOP 10 TALENT, period, so it’s head-shaking to see the same things continue to happen when there’s no need.

Oh yeah My friends who played college lacrosse, one of whom was a multiple all-American, see the same things that some of us here see.

I want this team to succeed...I want Brecht to succeed...so far? We still haven’t made the NCAA’s and, like it or not, that’s a problem.

I am going to call you out. Let's talk about what happened that is making you say the coaching was bad today. We are going deep, so get ready. List your top 5 things. Be detailed. Go.
 
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I am going to call you out. Let's talk about what happened that is making you say the coaching was bad today. We are going deep, so get ready. List your top 5 things. Be detailed. Go.

1) down 3-0 to open (a problem that has plagued us all season long) (-3)

2) give up goal with :01 on clock to end the half (-4)

3) give up 1st 2 goals of 2nd half (-6)

4) give up back-to-back goals for the PSU lead

5) awful final possession w/ball

...we played PHENOMENAL lacrosse otherwise. So why is - almost every game with maybe 3 exceptions this season - we have issues starting and closing games/halves???

I mean come on brother, we’ve been discussing this all season, it’s nothing new.
 
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AreYouNUTS

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Go look at the wrestling thread. It’s ridiculous.

I agree with you on wrestling, it gets to be too much with the “attitude and effort” thing - even when called for - BUT My comments all year long I have alluded to it being more of a mental thing as this team does, without question, come out very slow at the start of games and at the start of second-half. There is no doubt whatsoever about it. To me, that’s On the staff, not the kids, but a few people here don’t want to put any blame for anything whatsoever on the staff, so who DO you put it on?
 

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1) down 3-0 to open (a problem that has plagued us all season long) (-3)



2) give up goal with :01 on clock to end the half (-4)

3) give up 1st 2 goals of 2nd half (-6)

4) give up back-to-back goals for the PSU lead

5) awful final possession w/ball

...we played PHENOMENAL lacrosse otherwise. So why is - almost every game with maybe 3 exceptions this season - we have issues starting and closing games/halves???

I mean come on brother, we’ve been discussing this all season, it’s nothing new.

1) Nope. Outside of Hopkins, name one other game where we were down 3-0 or more.

2) Let's talk about that goal. You are generalizing. Gave up goal, bad coaching. Why was that bad coaching? What what you, as head coach or DC, done differently? I want strategy and personell details. Like I said, we are going deep.

3) Not true. We scored the first goal of the second half.

4) Wow, we gave up back to back goals. That's a sign of bad coaching, lol? Every coach in America sucks. What would you have done to not let that happen. Again, details. Strategy and personnel details. You're now the head coach.

5) Sort of agree, Kieren could have made a better decision. What is your play with 9 seconds left to get off a quality shot?

So two of your points aren't even true. Let's get into the others. Again, let's go deep.
 

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And they could lose to the #1 team in the country, more talented than RU, by 1 goal and you'd trash the coaches.

It's what people who don't understand what they are watching do. It's really the easy way out. Two of the thing Nuts listed as bad coaching for today's game, one didn't even happen and the other he is using is a made up stat that has only happened one other time.

I am curious to see his answers to the other questions though. Nuts, I love ya, but I want to see how much lacrosse understanding you really have.
 
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Since it’s never the coaching staffs’ fault let them sit in the stands and watch. The captains can do the substitutions.
 

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Since it’s never the coaching staffs’ fault let them sit in the stands and watch. The captains can do the substitutions.

I am sure the captains could have coached the team to a 1 goal loss to the number 1 team in the country, on their home field. No problem.

This team has some issues. Coaching isn't one of them. Not by a long shot.
 

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At least it wasn’t a 20-9 blow out ... Missed the game and saw RU have another 4th quarter lead ... Good to see RU can hang tough .. maybe at home will be the difference.
 

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Penn St. is very good. We were one play away. AC missed a dunk on the goal to make it a 1 goal lead with under 3 left. We would have signed up for the that situation all day. He missed, they came down and scored in a broken play situation where we would have really liked to have gotten that groundball.

We played their trigger guy Ament very well. He had a few helpers on broken plays/man down, but we played him tougher than anyone else in the country has.

Hopefully we get Christiano back. He was very sorely missed. Their midfielders were torching our shorties. He matches up with anyone. Let's hope he gets healthy for Thursday. I think he will be.
 

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1) Nope. Outside of Hopkins, name one other game where we were down 3-0 or more.

2) Let's talk about that goal. You are generalizing. Gave up goal, bad coaching. Why was that bad coaching? What what you, as head coach or DC, done differently? I want strategy and personell details. Like I said, we are going deep.

3) Not true. We scored the first goal of the second half.

4) Wow, we gave up back to back goals. That's a sign of bad coaching, lol? Every coach in America sucks. What would you have done to not let that happen. Again, details. Strategy and personnel details. You're now the head coach.

5) Sort of agree, Kieren could have made a better decision. What is your play with 9 seconds left to get off a quality shot?

So two of your points aren't even true. Let's get into the others. Again, let's go deep.

1) I’ll go through them again

2) HUGE goal and not the only time this season. It’s a problem so WHO is at fault? The kids or the coaches? You tell me.

3) meant 2nd period my bad.

4/5) nonetheless THEY made the plats at game’s end to win, we didn’t, how can you defend that?

Again...ALL I’m saying is that this team, all season long, has tended to put itself in bad positions due to slow starts and finishes. That’s all. That’s something that can be, and needs to be, work out in the off-season. A few more “W’s,” and NCAA bid, could easily have been had this year (again). It’s just a shame because the talent is there and has been, the last 3-4 years, to be on the NCAA’s (notwithstanding the 2 years we got screwed).


BTW - it matters not what sport we’re talking about. Most of this sticks with ANY sport: if you start and/or finish, slow, you’re generally ******! [cheers]
 

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1) I’ll go through them again

2) HUGE goal and not the only time this season. It’s a problem.

3) meant 2nd period my bad.

4/5) nonetheless THEY made the plats at game’s end to win, we didn’t, how can you defend that?

Again...ALL I’m saying is that this team, all season long, has tended to put itself in bad positions due to slow starts and finishes. That’s all. That’s something that can be, and needs to be, work out in the off-season. A few more “W’s,” and NCAA bid, could easily have been had this year (again). It’s just a shame because the talent is there and has been, the last 3-4 years, to be on the NCAA’s (notwithstanding the 2 years we got screwed).

2) You are speaking in generalities and past tense. I am asking you, what would you have done differently in this exact situation. You are blaming coaching. You're now the head coach. Strategy and personnel decisions. What are you doing in that exact situation to make better coaching decisions? Be very specific.

3) So they scored. It's lacrosse. If you consider that bad coaching, you think every coach in America sucks.

4) They did. If having AC with a dunk on the crease and missing it is bad coaching, I'd like to see you defend that. You're the one saying it. It's up to you to back up that claim. Again, specifics. No sports jargon canned answers. Details around strategy and personnel.