Not a good look for Mater Dei or Coach Rollinson
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Are you serious? Which part of the statement that I agreed with do you have a problem with?
"Typical response by the Catholic school. Obstruct justice, blame the victim and no accountability for the adults in charge."
You are making this strictly about the criminal filing (as if the lack of a criminal filing absolutely proves that the school upheld its fiduciary duty) when in fact I made no comment regarding the criminal filing itself. The school administration did in fact stonewall the police. Additionally, they not only blamed but also penalized the victim. Lastly, there is in fact a culture problem within the Catholic Church associated with cover-ups.
Your anger in this response shows your prejudice to the parties involved. To blame anyone without knowing a single fact is crazy. The story was presented by attorneys for the family and the family.
You don’t know anything about what happened except some story in the paper. Lord knows they’ve never been wrong with presenting facts.
What do you mean? I'm not angry. Prejudiced against the Catholic Church? Maybe I am, but they do have a culture issue. As for the story "being presented by the attorneys for the family," I guess that would be the case when the other side stonewalls and refuses to cooperate with the police. This stuff was printed in the paper, so I'm sure the school and its representatives could complain or sue over any inaccuracies. You can't dispute the video. You can't dispute the fact that the video was presented to the coaches. You can't dispute the fact that the other kid is the son of one of the coaches. You can't dispute the fact that the school disciplined the victim and refuses to say whether it disciplined the coach's son. You can't dispute the fact that the school and its representatives didn't cooperate with inquiries in a timely manner.
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So you saw the video? You know who threw the first head shot? You’re axe to grind with Catholics isn’t a good look. Nothing you say changes the way it is. Write ten pages of crap extolling your virtue and colored with your prejudices based on things that have NOTHING to do with MDHS.
It is not an isolated incident. You obviously are not an insider. I coach 7v7 football and there was another incident at the beginning of last year that was even crazier!
Never claimed to be. Just young enough to know the difference between a childish game and hazing. If you have details on the matter, feel free to share.
I can't remember, but did you say that you are a an alum? Honestly, I'm just debating points, but I think you are the one getting a bit unhinged here...?
Regarding the Catholic Church--I'm just an observer. I'm the least of the Church's problems, LOL (those come from within).
I am a 7v7 Coach for one of the ELITE 7v7 programs here in SoCal. Some of Our kids play at the trinity league schools so we always get the scoop on things. This particular incident was a hot topic amongst the crowd last Saturday night at MD vs Servite game. Out of respect for my kids I won’t spill all the beans but as I’ve said before this is the second such incident in the last 2 years.
The Diocese of Orange has paid out tens of millions of dollars in settlements to abuse victims over the last twenty years.
Mater Dei: Loving abusers and cover-up after all these years. - The Worthy Adversary
There are A LOT of sex abuse victims from Mater Dei. But for MD and the Diocese of Orange, it's all about collecting cash. And here are the photos ...
theworthyadversary.com
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I've been involved in HS sports for years, and Catholic schools are the absolute worst when it comes to lying and cheating and covering things up. These incidents come as no surprise, and that all MD did in response was deny, deny, deny. They have no conscience, and this all stems from the sick and twisted leadership of the ****** running the Catholic church. Whatever good things the church has done has been outweighed by these vile and disgusting incidents which happen again and again and again. Don't expect MD to change anything. They're just following the same rotten playbook that's been used for many years.
You’ve seen the video? Again the DA deemed it not an assault. Not sure how many of you have been on a jury in an assault case, but you do know that touching and injury ARE NOT REQUIRED for a finding of guilt in assault cases. Listening to the description of it by an advocate with a vested interest is hardly evidence nor is it unbiased to it’s content.
I’ve heard all musicians are drug abusers and addicts too, should I show articles backing up my position.The Diocese of Orange has paid out tens of millions of dollars in settlements to abuse victims over the last twenty years.
Mater Dei: Loving abusers and cover-up after all these years. - The Worthy Adversary
There are A LOT of sex abuse victims from Mater Dei. But for MD and the Diocese of Orange, it's all about collecting cash. And here are the photos ...theworthyadversary.com
Orange Coast Magazine
Orange Coast Magazine is the oldest continuously published lifestyle magazine in the region, bringing together Orange County¹s most affluent coastal communities through smart, fun, and timely editorial content, as well as compelling photographs and design. Each issue features an award-winning...books.google.com
Not playing anything. Have you any basis for condemning the school and those involved without REAL evidence? Or you just believe everything you see and read coming out of the mouth of a litigant’s attorney?
Do you believe any of the thousands of allegations made against the Catholic church in the last 3 decades? Or do you just believe what the Vatican wants you to believe?
You convict everyone through association?
Oh man, forgive me guys. I forgot in third grade after our “duck and cover” drills, how we were taught stonewalling and coverups just before catechism.. jiminey, I’m sorry
Really? Or maybe unedumacated remarks like yours won’t age well..
from the link posted above yours..”The Orange County District Attorney’s Office does not normally comment on investigations involving juveniles. However, the facts surrounding the situation that occurred in a Mater Dei High School boys’ locker room involving two teenage football players has been so erroneously reported by the media we have no choice but to correct the record and provide the accurate facts…”
I’ll repost link
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The way the court understood the events, what happened was mutual. The court didn’t condone acts that happened but it is not a crime albeit still very very unfortunate.
The lawsuit will not be abut the actual fight incident as much as it is that staff and administration covered it up... 1) Trainers refused to administer first aid, 2) Coaches refused to call 911 and get a brain injured minor to hospital, 3) Coaches refused to discipline the aggressive fighter that put minor in hospital with brain injury, 3) Head coach refused to get involved and the illegal hazing is an institutional fact at MD, 4) Principal covered up evidence of crime, 5) Administration refused to provide documentation regarding incident, After covering up all those molesting priests for decades the arch diocese has become pretty good at hiding evil doing. As Nixon found out, the cover up is worse than the crime. Maybe the DA won't prosecute but the civil suit where there is only a 'preponderance of evidence' necessary is going to bury MD.
We’ll see, said the blind man…. Could’ve sworn your were just talking DA and Sheriff, now it’s all about an ambulance chaser who has misstated the facts.
I’m defending the obvious. No one is happy the kid got hurt. But a lawyer and a couple reporters with grudges run with half truths and everyone acts like they’re facts.
I have made no secret of the fact that I’m a MDHS grad nor that my brother’s grandson just started playing there. This whole idea of ritualistic hazing in this instance is malarkey. It’s one thing to say “if this happened, then” but to cast guilt is scurrilous.
along similar lines… (in the electrical construction industry)
”Arguing with an inspector is like mud wrestling with a pig. It’s fun until you figure out the pig likes it.”
Like I said, the cover up is worse than the crime. Absolutely no excuse for not getting the kid medical attention. That was a pure CYA move, as was them not cooperating with the police.
If that happened the way it was reported, it is more than a bit disappointing. But AGAIN, that’s a big IF.
It's always something, LOLYour nephew doesn't coach for the team, does he?
The lawyers will sort it out in the end. No need for us to play "bodies" over it (especially because I've seen some head shots thrown).
All of this verbose commentary coming from a person who got their sorry *** ran out of Wolf's Blog by BruinRob/Owns. Hey Pudly, give it a rest o.k. You're not a lawyer so stop trying to sound like one. The fact of the matter is that Mater Dei and Rollinson possibly orchestrated a coverup to protect the brand. Why do you think the CIF-SS is not sanctioning them when it is clear that they can? Because the Mater Dei brand carries too much weight.