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TarHeelBlake

Mar 16, 7:49 PM

Do we really need another thread when the same conversation is going on in 10 others
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TheManitowocManiac

Mar 16, 7:50 PM

He has a really good record vs Quads 2, 3 and 4! and as Brian Kelly would say he’s “Famuuuhleee”
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thebigDZ

Mar 16, 8:00 PM

The argument for him is that the Caleb Wilson injury could have torpedoed the team, but they mostly held it together for for the last 6 weeks. And they beat Dook, Kansas, and Kentucky in the same year for the first time in a while. And practically, firing a coach now and hiring someone new quickly enough who could retain their recruiting class, convince Veesaar, Dixon, and Stevenson to stay, and who could successfully navigate the portal to add the players they need is an extremely small needle to thread. Firing Hubert now would, in all likelihood, lead to a 10 win season next year.
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Tar_HeeI

Mar 16, 8:00 PM

Because it is too late in the game to fire him unless your coach is waiting to sign. But no coach that Carolina would want (other than Stevens) is coming to Chapel Hill until after the tournament. You risk losing both 5 stars and also not having time to hit the portal which is so early and short now.
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RaiGuy

Mar 16, 8:02 PM

My god, can we just consolidate all the Hubert threads to 1-2 threads? It's the same things being rehashed over and over and pushes other threads down. At least wait until the season is officially over. (i am not trying to single out the OP, but just the board atmosphere in general)
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GoWhitePhantoms

Mar 16, 8:04 PM

Tar_HeeI said:
Because it is too late in the game to fire him unless your coach is waiting to sign. But no coach that Carolina would want (other than Stevens) is coming to Chapel Hill until after the tournament. You risk losing both 5 stars and also not having time to hit the portal which is so early and short now.
how is that different than any other year?
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heelsfan4life

Mar 16, 8:05 PM

RaiGuy said:
My god, can we just consolidate all the Hubert threads to 1-2 threads? It's the same things being rehashed over and over and pushes other threads down. At least wait until the season is officially over. (i am not trying to single out the OP, but just the board atmosphere in general)
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PolkPlace90

Mar 16, 8:05 PM

I will be interested to see if anyone will attempt to make a POSITIVE case for HD being the right coach for this program. I mean an argument that doesn't include any "ifs," "buts" or "whatabouts." An argument that his results have so far been good and not one that "well, he deserves a chance to prove it next year." Because I have yet to see that argument from anyone.
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thebigDZ

Mar 16, 8:07 PM

GoWhitePhantoms said:
how is that different than any other year?
If you wanna move on from a coach you’ve gotta do it by January.
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704Heel

Mar 16, 8:09 PM

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Jcswain

Mar 16, 8:10 PM

TarHeelBlake said:
Do we really need another thread when the same conversation is going on in 10 others
Amen. It's so annoying and lame.
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GoWhitePhantoms

Mar 16, 8:10 PM

thebigDZ said:
If you wanna move on from a coach you’ve gotta do it by January.
this isn't professional sports, mid-season firings except for egregious for-cause violations do not occur. even kenny payne was allowed to coach out the year! if anything this is the perfect year to fire after the season because there are no can't miss recruits to be lost, no offense to Mingo
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trolls

Mar 16, 8:12 PM

heelsfan4life said:
Someone make the argument.
Hubert was only two or three great players away from making a run at the ACC title.
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GrahamReese

Mar 16, 8:12 PM

thebigDZ said:
The argument for him is that the Caleb Wilson injury could have torpedoed the team, but they mostly held it together for for the last 6 weeks. And they beat Dook, Kansas, and Kentucky in the same year for the first time in a while. And practically, firing a coach now and hiring someone new quickly enough who could retain their recruiting class, convince Veesaar, Dixon, and Stevenson to stay, and who could successfully navigate the portal to add the players they need is an extremely small needle to thread. Firing Hubert now would, in all likelihood, lead to a 10 win season next year.
lol not even close
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thebigDZ

Mar 16, 8:14 PM

GoWhitePhantoms said:
this isn't professional sports, mid-season firings except for egregious for-cause violations do not occur. even kenny payne was allowed to coach out the year! if anything this is the perfect year to fire after the season because there are no can't miss recruits to be lost, no offense to Mingo
But it is professional sports. And free agency lasts exactly 2 weeks and starts right after the championship game. You can’t realistically expect a coach hired in late March to be successful under the current paradigm.
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ThanksFor22

Mar 16, 8:15 PM

Regardless of your question, Hubert is going to return. There is no scenario where Hubert will be fired. They could lose to VCU by 50 points and he will not be fired. And there is an even lesser chance that he would resign. Just start working through whatever you need to do to accept this.
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GoWhitePhantoms

Mar 16, 8:15 PM

thebigDZ said:
But it is professional sports. And free agency lasts exactly 2 weeks and starts right after the championship game. You can’t realistically expect a coach hired in late March to be successful under the current paradigm.
Bringing in a great coach means they probably are bringing in some transfers from their program anyways, and more important to get the coach in place than to worry about any one particular season
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CHSTarheel

Mar 16, 8:17 PM

Tar_HeeI said:
Because it is too late in the game to fire him unless your coach is waiting to sign. But no coach that Carolina would want (other than Stevens) is coming to Chapel Hill until after the tournament. You risk losing both 5 stars and also not having time to hit the portal which is so early and short now.
Using this logic, we'll never be able to fire him.
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AnnArborHeel

Mar 16, 8:17 PM

Ah, another way to come at this topic from an entirely different angle! A different inflection point, if you will.
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uncjhodges

Mar 16, 8:28 PM

thebigDZ said:
But it is professional sports. And free agency lasts exactly 2 weeks and starts right after the championship game. You can’t realistically expect a coach hired in late March to be successful under the current paradigm.
This is why you don’t hire an out of work coach who’s never coached in college and is past his prime (shoutout John Preyer). But anyone we would hire is well versed in the portal and has assuredly scouted it thoroughly. As long as our admin has done even a minimal amount of due diligence (this i’m not sure), we would be fine to move on after this weekends presumptive failure.
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Srhyne723

Mar 16, 8:39 PM

GrahamReese said:
lol not even close
Yea we would likely pull players from the team with whatever coach we hire, plus add in the portal and potentially still retain some players that want to be here. This isn't 2006. It's 2026.
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Srhyne723

Mar 16, 8:40 PM

ThanksFor22 said:
Regardless of your question, Hubert is going to return. There is no scenario where Hubert will be fired. They could lose to VCU by 50 points and he will not be fired. And there is an even lesser chance that he would resign. Just start working through whatever you need to do to accept this.
If they lose to VCU and look very bad doing it, I doubt he's back.
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BCHeel

Mar 16, 8:57 PM

thebigDZ said:
The argument for him is that the Caleb Wilson injury could have torpedoed the team, but they mostly held it together for for the last 6 weeks. And they beat Dook, Kansas, and Kentucky in the same year for the first time in a while. And practically, firing a coach now and hiring someone new quickly enough who could retain their recruiting class, convince Veesaar, Dixon, and Stevenson to stay, and who could successfully navigate the portal to add the players they need is an extremely small needle to thread. Firing Hubert now would, in all likelihood, lead to a 10 win season next year.
Isn’t what I’ve bolded above always going to be an issue or concern in hiring another coach? I suppose if they’re not an existing college HC, but otherwise…
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Chamtrain

Mar 16, 9:54 PM

He should return to broadcasting. He was good at it and seemed to be enjoying life.

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