Just how bad is McMahon

Capitallsu said:

Matt McMahon’s overall record at LSU is 60-68 His SEC record is is 18-57 (counting SEC tournament) so McLoser is just 4 SEC losses away from having more conference losses than overall wins (non conference + conference)

It was truly embarrassing seeing folks defend the guy even up until conference play of this season. You didn’t have to be Coach K to know the guy was fucking clueless year one

BuckheadLSU said:

It was truly embarrassing seeing folks defend the guy even up until conference play of this season. You didn’t have to be Coach K to know the guy was ******* clueless year one

I knew he was clueless at his press conference and said so that day

Jaybo said:

I knew he was clueless at his press conference and said so that day

I didn’t watch the press conference, but I knew the team in year one should have never gone 2-16 in conference. As ridiculous as that is to mention McMahon has had many fans with unrelenting loyalty that have defended his every move. Probably the most bizarre head coaching saga I can recall for a major LSU coach.

Riveting thread.

BuckheadLSU said:

It was truly embarrassing seeing folks defend the guy even up until conference play of this season. You didn’t have to be Coach K to know the guy was ******* clueless

I hope they bring him back just to so I can read this board.

He’s a very good coach who came into an awful situation and has had terrible injury luck

Dang , year 1 at LSU for MM had absolutely nothing as almost every player WW had (paid) left. KJ Williams who helped MM go 28-2 at Murray State was all they had and just wasn't enough. MM is unlucky with injuries and he hasn't done a great job getting this team to quit turning the ball over. They lack so many qualities that can make a team good that it's hard to say a coaching change would turn that around with the exception of recruiting. Not sure thats in the cards for Verge at this moment.

BuckheadLSU said:

I didn’t watch the press conference, but I knew the team in year one should have never gone 2-16 in conference. As ridiculous as that is to mention McMahon has had many fans with unrelenting loyalty that have defended his every move. Probably the most bizarre head coaching saga I can recall for a major LSU coach.

Exactly. You’re gonna win 1 or 2 games a year just bc the other team has a shitty night. So that begs the question of is really that good of a coach at this level? The results say no. He did a good job in the OVC or whatever league he was in before but he’s clearly not cut out for the sec. if he was such a good x and o coach, you’d think he would have squeezed out a few more wins rather than having so many close losses. I suppose one could argue that we aren’t that talented and the mere fact that we have been in so many games is a testament to his coaching but then we come back to the question of who is responsible for building the roster? Isn’t that part of being a coach ? Nevertheless, I think truly good coaches win close games. They don’t find ways to lose them over and over

I think McMahon is somewhere around an average coach in a league that is full of average to above average coaches. If you give him a team that is inherently an eight win team, his team will win around eight games. I don't think he's so bad that he's going to take an eight win team and only win three games with them, but I don't think he's going to take an eight win team and win thirteen games. I also think his rosters have been, for the most part, towards the bottom of the SEC, and when you take an average coach, with below average rosters, and you factor in the injury issues he's experienced, you get these results.

BuckheadLSU said:

I didn’t watch the press conference, but I knew the team in year one should have never gone 2-16 in conference. As ridiculous as that is to mention McMahon has had many fans with unrelenting loyalty that have defended his every move. Probably the most bizarre head coaching saga I can recall for a major LSU coach.

Less had defenders up until he was fired

DenhamTiger90 said:

He’s a very good coach who came into an awful situation and has had terrible injury luck

Disagree. Yes, the injury luck has been terrible and he hasn't been given many resources but to not make one tournament in his tenure is very bad.

LSU all time .567 win percentage. McMahon at .469. Not far off the pace at all. Give him 10 more years

DenhamTiger90 said:

He’s a very good coach who came into an awful situation and has had terrible injury luck

I would say that MM is a good coach in a mid-major conference. Think that's his best landing spot and hopefully he does and at least offsets some of his salary with mid-major job. Those who believe he's a very good coach in the big four conference, what major program would hire him right now?

McMahon is a better coach than his record. This was the first season he had a roster that could compete for a NCAA bid. he lost 2 key starters to injury early this season. AT the same time, he doesn't bring any juice or excitement to the program. in summary, he's not as bad as his record, but LSU can do much better. Whoever the coach is will need better funding for NIL.

DenhamTiger90 said:

He’s a very good coach who came into an awful situation and has had terrible injury luck

Very good coaches do a lot better than he has done…it’s year 4.

If McMahon had a very good gm who could handle roster construction and the adequate funding of it, I think he would be pretty successful here. Obviously, that hasn't happened and we just aren't built for that (at least currently), and that's why Wade was so good here. He could handle that all himself at a very high level.

Tigerocker said:

Dang , year 1 at LSU for MM had absolutely nothing as almost every player WW had (paid) left. KJ Williams who helped MM go 28-2 at Murray State was all they had and just wasn't enough. MM is unlucky with injuries and he hasn't done a great job getting this team to quit turning the ball over. They lack so many qualities that can make a team good that it's hard to say a coaching change would turn that around with the exception of recruiting. Not sure thats in the cards for Verge at this moment.

Robot response

Southside1975 said:

McMahon is a better coach than his record. This was the first season he had a roster that could compete for a NCAA bid. he lost 2 key starters to injury early this season. AT the same time, he doesn't bring any juice or excitement to the program. in summary, he's not as bad as his record, but LSU can do much better. Whoever the coach is will need better funding for NIL.

lol. Fla coach hired, check his first year and number of returnees. Check the Michigan coach first year and his record and returnees.

Bert Skipmann said:

I hope they bring him back just to so I can read this board.

What a bizarre take lol

Southside1975 said:

McMahon is a better coach than his record. This was the first season he had a roster that could compete for a NCAA bid. he lost 2 key starters to injury early this season. AT the same time, he doesn't bring any juice or excitement to the program. in summary, he's not as bad as his record, but LSU can do much better. Whoever the coach is will need better funding for NIL.

his record would indicate he’s the worst LSU basketball coach in 100 years. That’s a very flattering endorsement lmao

Not sure how people still believe he is a good coach at this level. It would be hard to come up with more than 1 thing that he has done really well since being at LSU that u can say was good coaching.

BuckheadLSU said:

What a bizarre take

Have you read this board when it's in "gone full potato" mode?

I'm not even sure why that made me giggle or what full potato mode means, but I still agree

Stagger72 said:

I'm not even sure why that made me giggle or what full potato mode means, but I still agree

Basically this

Bert Skipmann said:

Basically this

Ahh... damn I miss the 80's/90's. Every one of my friends were "potatoes" and umm... eh... "maggots"?