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HelmetBoyOct 05, 3:20 PM

Fire Kyle Flood

We've already seen Kyle Flood's absolute best at Texas, and it wasn't good enough to win a championship. The 2024 OL was the most experienced line Ive ever seen at Texas and very talented, with multiple expensive five-stars and future draft picks. It was the payoff year of a multi year investment and development cycle and what were the returns? Weak at the point of attack. Can't run the ball AT ALL on the top tier teams in college football. And the absurd amount of penalties which is the most consistent feature of Sark's tenure at Texas (which happens to coincide with Floods tenure as OL coach at Texas). So should we be surprised at the steep year over year degradation in performance along the OL now? Actually, we should be somewhat because none of us really knew what Flood has been cooking up in the OL development pipeline over the past few years. We do now. And it's gross. Flood has had broad autonomy to identify his guys in recruiting and then coach them up over years. Fail and fail. None of his multi-year developmental interior OL are fit for purpose. Notably, most of these were not highly touted recruits that involved any material NIL investment or even a competitive recruitment. We took culture guys with the right measurements. Very Mack Brown. And we also have a looming tackle crisis in 2026, Floods fifth season at Texas. That's the talent acquisition/roster management failure. The developmental failure is also manifest. These guys are shockingly weak at the point of attack, miss assignments, commit penalties at an alarming rate and lack technique. So what exactly has Flood been doing at Texas? I don't see any way Sark can bring Flood back next season. This is a catastrophic failure across the board - talent evaluation, roster management, development, performance. Failure to correct persistent problems. We need an off-season emergency talent transfusion and a complete overhaul to our OL program. Flood's gotta go.
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Bull Horn

Oct 05, 3:22 PM

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bHero

Oct 05, 3:22 PM

I’m almost always a wait and see guy, but I’ve seen enough. Even in a transition year where we’re replacing most of the line, the floor is supposed to be much higher. I was slow to call for Mack, Strong and Herman to get fired. But it’s clear we have to have a change.
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TipOfTheHorn

Oct 05, 3:27 PM

Who are good attainable OL coaches? I’m in the he does more with less talent boat with an OL coach.
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bigger_in_texas35

Oct 05, 3:29 PM

TipOfTheHorn said:
Who are good attainable OL coaches? I’m in the he does more with less talent boat with an OL coach.
Pittman
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RuralJuror

Oct 05, 3:33 PM

The line is completely and totally unplayable. Absolutely a firable offense. Zero excuse for this at SMU, let alone Texas.
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GoHornsGo90

Oct 05, 3:33 PM

Aside from the whole "having a functional offensive line" thing, an ancillary benefit of firing Flood is we'd also be freeing up that pesky OC title just in case Sark wants to make a real hire there. Just a thought.
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cincomom

Oct 05, 3:33 PM

I have become blackpilled on Flood (and Banks to a lesser extent). They are stealing money as far as I am concerned. Sarkisian’s legacy will be determined by what he does about it.
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rodofdisaster

Oct 05, 3:36 PM

Good news is that he'll get a job coaching Ice Capades. Used to coaching guys on skates.
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WildcatSavion

Oct 05, 3:37 PM

I’m calling a false start on this post to go along with multitude of pre-snap line penalties!
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EricNahlin

Oct 05, 3:38 PM

Not the time to make a move, imo, but a lot of fair criticism. "Not knowing his own unit, clearly, because we were hearing that we had TEN players we trusted to start on the OL this year. What a joke." Where the heck did you hear this? It certainly wasn't here.
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tcl0035

Oct 05, 3:38 PM

TipOfTheHorn said:
Who are good attainable OL coaches? I’m in the he does more with less talent boat with an OL coach.
If he still has any fire in him I’d call Sam Pittman. Probably wouldn’t be my first call, though.
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dick fingers

Oct 05, 3:38 PM

bHero said:
I’m almost always a wait and see guy, but I’ve seen enough. Even in a transition year where we’re replacing most of the line, the floor is supposed to be much higher. I was slow to call for Mack, Strong and Herman to get fired. But it’s clear we have to have a change.
I mean…I think we have waited and we’ve now seen? It’s not like we were calling for his job in year 2 or at the first sign of struggling against UGA last year. Ok some people might’ve been but normal people weren’t. We gave him some grace because of his Bama tenure, Banks, Jones, etc. This is another (bad) data point in Flood’s file. And it’s really bad. At this point I think there have been enough. I agree with everything @HelmetBoy said but I’d add one thing I think was worse than all of those: he doesn’t seem to have one damn clue what to do to fix it. Tossing Brooks to the wolves yesterday was really damning imo.
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rodofdisaster

Oct 05, 3:41 PM

dick fingers said:
Tossing Brooks to the wolves yesterday was really damning imo.
The kid apparently scored a zero on PFF and I did feel for him. He's been on campus for five minutes. That said, it's a coaching decision to put him out there.
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GoHornsGo90

Oct 05, 3:42 PM

dick fingers said:
I mean…I think we have waited and we’ve now seen? It’s not like we were calling for his job in year 2 or at the first sign of struggling against UGA last year. Ok some people might’ve been but normal people weren’t. We gave him some grace because of his Bama tenure, Banks, Jones, etc. This is another (bad) data point in Flood’s file. And it’s really bad. At this point I think there have been enough. I agree with everything @HelmetBoy said but I’d add one thing I think was worse than all of those: he doesn’t seem to have one damn clue what to do to fix it. Tossing Brooks to the wolves yesterday was really damning imo.
Also: not fully incorporating Brooks before this when you had not one... not two... but THREE freaking tune-up games to do so? Like, seriously?!
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GoHornsGo90

Oct 05, 3:43 PM

rodofdisaster said:
The kid apparently scored a zero on PFF and I did feel for him. He's been on campus for five minutes. That said, it's a coaching decision to put him out there.
I do know the first play or one of the first few plays he got in we basically teleported the right side of their DL back by five yards after previously getting no push whatsoever. So there's something there, albeit raw.
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dick fingers

Oct 05, 3:44 PM

rodofdisaster said:
The kid apparently scored a zero on PFF and I did feel for him. He's been on campus for five minutes. That said, it's a coaching decision to put him out there.
Yea, I’m not upset with Brooks or concerned about his future. He got thrown into playing before he was close to ready at a position he doesn’t play. Fail and fail, both on Flood. I’m still curious what on earth is happening with Neto. I’ll have to queue up a question for the next Q&A
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GoHornsGo90

Oct 05, 3:45 PM

dick fingers said:
Yea, I’m not upset with Brooks or concerned about his future. He got thrown into playing before he was close to ready at a position he doesn’t play. Fail and fail, both on Flood. I’m still curious what on earth is happening with Neto. I’ll have to queue up a question for the next Q&A
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DrewALine33

Oct 05, 3:46 PM

Co-sign. Anybody who disagrees at this point is either a sunshine pumper or doesn’t know WTF they’re looking at. Keeping Flood after this season would be the equivalent of hanging on to Shawn Watson after one of the most abysmal offensive performances of all time.
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ryanbartner

Oct 05, 3:46 PM

TipOfTheHorn said:
Who are good attainable OL coaches? I’m in the he does more with less talent boat with an OL coach.
I don’t think he was that good, but even Matt Mattox would be a massive improvement over Kyle Flood. Also, Greg Studrawa was known for having pretty good to great offensive lines during his career. He’s been out of the game the last few years, but he recently took over as the head coach at IMG. The one draw back with Studrawa was his reputation for being somewhat light on the recruiting trail, but that should be mitigated by the NIL era.
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General Grant

Oct 05, 3:47 PM

They’ve been together back to the Falcons days right? That’ll be a tough move but seems warranted. Doubt during the season. Give me an SEC experienced guy not named Kyle Flood. Pittman is intriguing but I’m not nuanced enough to judge.
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WildcatSavion

Oct 05, 3:47 PM

The days of internally developing a full starting OL are rapidly dwindling if not gone entirely. Unless you are signing a Banks every year, it’s hard to get a good ROI on OL HS signings since most take a few years to be ready to play in the SEC so while they are “developing” your LG is getting turnstiled. Need to keep signing portal veterans to fill holes
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dick fingers

Oct 05, 3:48 PM

GoHornsGo90 said:
Yea I’ve seen that, but I’m curious what he did that was so awful that we’re going to detonate our OL and season over it? Like did he get in a shouting match with Flood and tell him he didn’t know shit? Because that’s bang on. They should promote him if that happened, not put him in the dog house
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CoSLonghorn

Oct 05, 3:48 PM

I usually don't get too high or low with sports, there's not much we can control as fans. However, if Neto transfers somewhere else and becomes a draft pick I will lose my mind.
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alumnihorn

Oct 05, 3:49 PM

I rarely post in program information anymore on message boards. But since it is always more overreaction than logic after a loss I'll share what was said this morning from those that can affect change. Arch is not thought of negatively by those that understand development. The gameplan was just flat out bad on both sides of the ball. The crux of it all is line play. After the game Flood was heavily discussed. Not because of 1 game but because of the current state of the OL in both pipeline and development. Those that spend the money are quite aware that we will be spending a great bit of our portal allocation to the OL. I personally think that Flood making it to next year is about 50/50 after the conversations I was privileged to participate in. There are 7 games left. He is actually coaching for his job. The LG decisions are just really problematic. The lack of portal addtions is on Sark and Flood. Sark ain't going anywhere so you can do the math. We will see. This team is an OL away from winning a Natty. Regardless of your belief. Young talent needs time to develop. We are incredibly talented everywhere but the OL. The RB room is hard to judge given the fact that there is literally nowhere to run at the moment.

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